[CP2K-user] [CP2K:19104] Re: No agreement between the LR and RT absorption spectra

Natalia K natalja.lipina at gmail.com
Tue Jul 11 13:45:57 UTC 2023

Dear Beliz,

thank you for your answer. As I said, I tried changing many different 
parameters in TDA-CP2K. For instance, MT Poisson solver changes the 
spectrum by a tiny bit, as does the TZP basis set. The parameter change 
affects more the higher frequency and not the low frequencies. The XC 
functional does affect a lot the results, but still, the difference remains 
huge when comparing to RTP+Fourier transform (the latter agrees with the 
literature, so I trust it) with the same parameters.

I do not perform Gaussian calculations myself, I just compare with the 
literature that employs Gaussian, so I cannot check the TD vs TDA.

(Just a side note that with SIESTA, I do get agreement between the linear 
response and real-time propagation with delta kick for the absorption 
spectra of the same system. So, is it the Tamm Dankoff approximation that 
does something weird??)


On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 4:43:45 PM UTC+2 Beliz Sertcan wrote:

> Hello Natalia,
> Regarding the mismatch between CP2K and Gaussian TDDFT results, once 
> should use the TDA keyword in Gaussian instead of TD to get an exact match 
> as CP2K employs the Tamm-Dancoff approximation. Furthermore, I would highly 
> recommend turning on the Poisson section and setting the solver to MT 
> instead of analytical.
>     &POISSON
>     &END
> Since you are working with a heavy element I would also consider using a 
> bigger basis such as TZVP maybe even TZV2P. With these additions I think 
> you will be able to match the RTP spectrum better, but I would not expect a 
> perfect match. In my opinion what you have with the positions of the sticks 
> is not so bad.
> Best,
> Beliz
> On Monday, 10 July 2023 at 10:55:39 UTC+2 Natalia K wrote:
> Dear community,
> I am calculating the absorption spectra for a silver chain using both 
> linear response (TDDFPT) and real-time propagation implemented in CP2K 9.1. 
> Within the RT propagation, I apply a delta kick in all three directions and 
> then take the Fourier transform of the dipole moment and get the average 
> (over three directions) spectrum that is in a very good agreement with the 
> literature. In particular, with another GGA linear-response calculation 
> with the Gaussian code (image attached, top - my results, bottom - 
> reference). Within the TDDFPT approach, I calculate the oscillator strength 
> which should give the same frequencies as the real-time approach, but it 
> doesn't. In the figure attached, the oscillator strength is plotted with 
> impulses. I tested many different parameters but LR never agrees with RT. I 
> also tested a simpler system, a water molecule, and got a better agreement 
> between the two methods, but still not as perfect as here, for instance: 
> https://nwchemgit.github.io/RT-TDDFT.html#absorption-spectrum-of-water
> I would appreciate any help or suggestion. I attach both RT and LR input 
> files used to obtain the results on the figure.
> Best regards,
> Natalia

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