[CP2K-user] [CP2K:16972] Not answering is worst than cursing ; D

[Mozhdeh Mohammadpour]

Thank you all very much.
@Matt, I personally sincerely appreciate your and other developers' help 
and comments. 

Kindest regards,
Mozhdeh

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 10:29:33 AM UTC+1 mattwa... at gmail.com wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
> couple (ish) of quick comments:
> - I know I try and answer questions - but sometimes just too busy with 
> other things (and I only know a few bits and pieces)! 
> - I think generally the forum is quite friendly and _if_ there is an easy 
> / quick answer it is generally given quickly - but as suggested often the 
> questions stretch over several issues aren't/  clear-cut and get left 
> hanging...guess we need a clear way of giving some feedback for these cases 
> saying that more specific question needed
> - updating and improving the howtos / sticky or pinned posts / FAQs is 
> needed
> - we need to work out a way of collecting what most people want most of 
> the time. I'm hoping to do some things in this direction in the near future 
> - the more people that help the better it will be - and not just core 
> developers - users often ask the best questions and can give the best 
> answers of indicate where there is a lack of information.
>
> Matt   
>  
>
> On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 04:16:30 UTC+1 ma455... at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I think CP2K community is already very active. The developers and some 
>> experts tried to help a lot. But CP2K really covers quite a lot of methods. 
>> I think there are very little people can provide answers to all kinds of 
>> questions, especially some methods that were developed long time ago. 
>> Indeed hoping to enhance the tutorials of CP2K a little bit (or developing 
>> a latest and *user-friendly* code that can generate *.inp files for 
>> different applications; e.g., GEO_OPT, CELL_OPT, MD, STM, Band structure, 
>> DOS, etc...). Maybe something like vaspkit or Multiwfn. Avogadro is so hard 
>> to use... 
>> 在2022年5月13日星期五 UTC+10 01:53:09<eric.ledi... at gmail.com> 写道：
>>
>>> PS: to be entirely clear, I very much appreciate all the experts of the 
>>> community doing as much as they do already. I am just struck by how much I 
>>> do not know and asking one off questions hoping for an answer (especially 
>>> since the question has likely been asked before) seems like a waste of 
>>> their time, and a centralized tutorial like the HowTo but for variable 
>>> selection seems more efficient.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:49:10 AM UTC-5 Eric Ledieu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello both of you!
>>>>
>>>> As a newbie, I definitely would rather get told off in the general 
>>>> direction of an answer than receive no answer. I think I understand a lot 
>>>> of the how now (as in how to do task X in CP2K by following a tutorial) but 
>>>> the things like why each parameter is selected is a bit trickier. I know 
>>>> these are not trivial topics that can be answered quickly, but when picking 
>>>> up the software as the first person in the lab to do so with limited local 
>>>> resources, alternatives are not plentiful. as it stands, the best option I 
>>>> have found is to look up a random ab initio paper and go to their method 
>>>> section, hoping to see what parameters they used for a few variable and 
>>>> why. While the CP2K community is not responsible for any of this, there has 
>>>> to be a better way.
>>>>
>>>> With best wishes,
>>>> -Eric  
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 6:41:48 AM UTC-5 anton.s.l... at gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mozhdeh, 
>>>>>
>>>>> 12.05.2022 12:47, Mozhdeh Mohammadpour пише: 
>>>>> > But no comment at all is a dead-end, especially for the newbies. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, it's infamous. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that everybody tries to answer within her or his 
>>>>> expertise and ability, it is not a paid work (unfortunately). The 
>>>>> scope 
>>>>> of CP2K methods and applications is extremely broad, and a single 
>>>>> person 
>>>>> could not even try to be an expert in all of them. Answering any 
>>>>> question implies the person(s) in charge, who is obligued to deal with 
>>>>> the questions. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the newbies questions, I think that solid introductory 
>>>>> courses 
>>>>> in at least some aspects of CP2K usage will be more beneficial. Again, 
>>>>> it's a question of time and efforts, and of the broad scope of CP2K. 
>>>>> Let's do more of them? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Yours, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Anton 
>>>>>
>>>>>

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