[CP2K-user] [CP2K:16968] Not answering is worst than cursing ; D

[Matt Watkins]

Hi everyone, 
couple (ish) of quick comments:
- I know I try and answer questions - but sometimes just too busy with 
other things (and I only know a few bits and pieces)! 
- I think generally the forum is quite friendly and _if_ there is an easy / 
quick answer it is generally given quickly - but as suggested often the 
questions stretch over several issues aren't/  clear-cut and get left 
hanging...guess we need a clear way of giving some feedback for these cases 
saying that more specific question needed
- updating and improving the howtos / sticky or pinned posts / FAQs is 
needed
- we need to work out a way of collecting what most people want most of the 
time. I'm hoping to do some things in this direction in the near future 
- the more people that help the better it will be - and not just core 
developers - users often ask the best questions and can give the best 
answers of indicate where there is a lack of information.

Matt   
 

On Friday, 13 May 2022 at 04:16:30 UTC+1 ma455... at gmail.com wrote:

> I think CP2K community is already very active. The developers and some 
> experts tried to help a lot. But CP2K really covers quite a lot of methods. 
> I think there are very little people can provide answers to all kinds of 
> questions, especially some methods that were developed long time ago. 
> Indeed hoping to enhance the tutorials of CP2K a little bit (or developing 
> a latest and *user-friendly* code that can generate *.inp files for 
> different applications; e.g., GEO_OPT, CELL_OPT, MD, STM, Band structure, 
> DOS, etc...). Maybe something like vaspkit or Multiwfn. Avogadro is so hard 
> to use... 
> 在2022年5月13日星期五 UTC+10 01:53:09<eric.ledi... at gmail.com> 写道：
>
>> PS: to be entirely clear, I very much appreciate all the experts of the 
>> community doing as much as they do already. I am just struck by how much I 
>> do not know and asking one off questions hoping for an answer (especially 
>> since the question has likely been asked before) seems like a waste of 
>> their time, and a centralized tutorial like the HowTo but for variable 
>> selection seems more efficient.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 10:49:10 AM UTC-5 Eric Ledieu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello both of you!
>>>
>>> As a newbie, I definitely would rather get told off in the general 
>>> direction of an answer than receive no answer. I think I understand a lot 
>>> of the how now (as in how to do task X in CP2K by following a tutorial) but 
>>> the things like why each parameter is selected is a bit trickier. I know 
>>> these are not trivial topics that can be answered quickly, but when picking 
>>> up the software as the first person in the lab to do so with limited local 
>>> resources, alternatives are not plentiful. as it stands, the best option I 
>>> have found is to look up a random ab initio paper and go to their method 
>>> section, hoping to see what parameters they used for a few variable and 
>>> why. While the CP2K community is not responsible for any of this, there has 
>>> to be a better way.
>>>
>>> With best wishes,
>>> -Eric  
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 12, 2022 at 6:41:48 AM UTC-5 anton.s.l... at gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mozhdeh, 
>>>>
>>>> 12.05.2022 12:47, Mozhdeh Mohammadpour пише: 
>>>> > But no comment at all is a dead-end, especially for the newbies. 
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, it's infamous. 
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that everybody tries to answer within her or his 
>>>> expertise and ability, it is not a paid work (unfortunately). The scope 
>>>> of CP2K methods and applications is extremely broad, and a single 
>>>> person 
>>>> could not even try to be an expert in all of them. Answering any 
>>>> question implies the person(s) in charge, who is obligued to deal with 
>>>> the questions. 
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the newbies questions, I think that solid introductory 
>>>> courses 
>>>> in at least some aspects of CP2K usage will be more beneficial. Again, 
>>>> it's a question of time and efforts, and of the broad scope of CP2K. 
>>>> Let's do more of them? 
>>>>
>>>> Yours, 
>>>>
>>>> Anton 
>>>>
>>>>

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