[CP2K-user] [CP2K:16254] Re: Improve extrapolation between relaxation steps?

Nicholas Winner nwinner at berkeley.edu
Wed Nov 17 18:25:06 UTC 2021


It is a large band gap (TiO2), but with a has a shallow defect state, 
making the overall band gap small (~0.13eV).

I know OT works better the wider the gap, but I had hooped that after the 
first SCF, it would still speed up quite a bit for the subsequent 
relaxation steps. 

I was trying to use FULL_KINETIC because 
IRAC+Rotations+occupation_preeconditioner together require that. This has 
the advantage of making defect states more robust by allowing for 
fractional occupations, but of course it can severely compromise 
convergence speed. 

When I switch to FULL_SINGLE_INVERSE preconditioner. I can grep and get:

*  outer SCF loop converged in*   3 iterations or  104 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   72 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   3 iterations or  116 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   72 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   93 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   72 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   63 steps

  *outer SCF loop converged in*   2 iterations or   60 steps


It doesn't look like its speeding up very much. I suppose 60 i better than 
100, but its not what I expected.
If this is just the way it is, then I'll live with it.

On Wednesday, November 17, 2021 at 10:08:02 AM UTC-8 mattwa... at gmail.com 
wrote:

> 'so for wide gap insulators you should for sure only need a few SCF cycles 
> to converge'
> I meant to write when fairly relaxed / close to the minimum ...
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 17 November 2021 at 18:06:33 UTC Matt Watkins wrote:
>
>> Well, CP2K was setup to do Born-Oppenheimer MD for bio systems   - so for 
>> wide gap insulators you should for sure only need a few SCF cycles to 
>> converge.
>>
>> Is your  system insulating (band gap, let's say > 0.2 eV)? If not 
>> different approach needed.
>>
>> If so, improve the OT setup  - especially the preconditioner
>>
>> remove
>> PRECONDITIONER FULL_KINETIC
>> ENERGY_GAP 0.01
>>
>> try 
>>
>> PRECONDITIONER FULL_SINGLE_INVERSE
>>
>> or (can be expensive for larger systems)
>>
>> PRECONDITIONER FULL_ALL
>>
>> and leave out the energy_gap (if you are using an up-to-date cp2k)
>>
>> Also check that you XC setup is correct ...
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 17:58:59 UTC nwi... at berkeley.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all, 
>>>
>>> When I run a relaxation for a complex system, e.g. in my case a 
>>> defective transition metal oxide with hybrid dft on a modest ~200 atom 
>>> supercell, each SCF still takes quite a long time to converge. 
>>>
>>> I originally came from vasp before switching to cp2k, and it in that 
>>> code, my experience was that once the first scf loop converged, the next 
>>> relaxation step would take much less time, and so on until the last few 
>>> steps converged in just a few iterations. This isn't my experience with 
>>> CP2K though. Running CG on my most recent relaxation I still find that 
>>> after more than 20 relaxation steps, 40-50 scf steps are required to 
>>> achieve convergence.
>>>
>>> Is this something that I could improve by changing certain settings? 
>>> Below is the relevant info for my input file. Please note that I understand 
>>> FULL_KINETIC and CG might lead to slower convergence than FULL_ALL + DIIS, 
>>> but my question lies in why convergence is not appreciably speeding up 
>>> rather than its absolute speed.
>>>
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> &DFT
>>>
>>>                 BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_MOLOPT
>>>
>>>                 BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_MOLOPT_UCL
>>>
>>>                 BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_ADMM
>>>
>>>                 BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_ADMM_MOLOPT
>>>
>>>                 POTENTIAL_FILE_NAME GTH_POTENTIALS
>>>
>>>                 UKS T
>>>
>>>                 MULTIPLICITY 0
>>>
>>>                 CHARGE 4
>>>
>>>                 &SCF
>>>
>>>                         MAX_ITER_LUMO 400
>>>
>>>                         MAX_SCF 50
>>>
>>>                         EPS_SCF 1e-06
>>>
>>>                         SCF_GUESS RESTART
>>>
>>>                         &OT
>>>
>>>                                 ALGORITHM STRICT
>>>
>>>                                 MINIMIZER CG
>>>
>>>                                 LINESEARCH 2PNT
>>>
>>>                                 PRECONDITIONER FULL_KINETIC
>>>
>>>                                 ENERGY_GAP 0.01
>>>
>>>                                 ROTATION F
>>>
>>>                                 OCCUPATION_PRECONDITIONER F
>>>
>>>                         &END OT
>>>
>>>                         &OUTER_SCF
>>>
>>>                                 EPS_SCF 1e-06
>>>
>>>                                 MAX_SCF 20
>>>
>>>                         &END OUTER_SCF
>>>
>>>                 &END SCF
>>>
>>>                 &AUXILIARY_DENSITY_MATRIX_METHOD
>>>
>>>                         ADMM_PURIFICATION_METHOD None
>>>
>>>                         METHOD BASIS_PROJECTION
>>>
>>>                 &END AUXILIARY_DENSITY_MATRIX_METHOD
>>>
>>>                 &QS
>>>
>>>                         EPS_DEFAULT 1e-12
>>>
>>>                         EPS_PGF_ORB 1e-16
>>>
>>>                         EXTRAPOLATION PS
>>>
>>>                         METHOD GPW
>>>
>>>                 &END QS
>>>
>>>                 &MGRID
>>>
>>>                         NGRIDS 5
>>>
>>>                         CUTOFF 550.0
>>>
>>>                         REL_CUTOFF 50.0
>>>
>>>                 &END MGRID
>>>
>>>  &XC
>>>
>>>                         &XC_FUNCTIONAL NO_SHORTCUT
>>>
>>>                                 &PBE
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_X 0.0
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_C 1.0
>>>
>>>                                 &END PBE
>>>
>>>                                 &XWPBE
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_X 0.063
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_X0 0.877
>>>
>>>                                         OMEGA 0.07
>>>
>>>                                 &END XWPBE
>>>
>>>                                 &PBE_HOLE_T_C_LR
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_X 0.123
>>>
>>>                                         CUTOFF_RADIUS 5.930000000000001
>>>
>>>                                 &END PBE_HOLE_T_C_LR
>>>
>>>                         &END XC_FUNCTIONAL
>>>
>>>                         &HF
>>>
>>>                                 FRACTION 1.0
>>>
>>>                                 &SCREENING
>>>
>>>                                         EPS_SCHWARZ 1e-07
>>>
>>>                                         EPS_SCHWARZ_FORCES 1e-06
>>>
>>>                                         SCREEN_P_FORCES T
>>>
>>>                                         SCREEN_ON_INITIAL_P T
>>>
>>>                                 &END SCREENING
>>>
>>>                                 &INTERACTION_POTENTIAL
>>>
>>>                                         POTENTIAL_TYPE MIX_CL_TRUNC
>>>
>>>                                         OMEGA 0.07
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_COULOMB 0.06
>>>
>>>                                         SCALE_LONGRANGE 0.063
>>>
>>>                                         CUTOFF_RADIUS 5.930000000000001
>>>
>>>                                         T_C_G_DATA t_c_g.dat
>>>
>>>                                 &END INTERACTION_POTENTIAL
>>>
>>>                                 &LOAD_BALANCE
>>>
>>>                                         RANDOMIZE T
>>>
>>>                                 &END LOAD_BALANCE
>>>
>>>                                 &MEMORY
>>>
>>>                                         EPS_STORAGE_SCALING 0.1
>>>
>>>                                         MAX_MEMORY 2000
>>>
>>>                                 &END MEMORY
>>>
>>>                         &END HF
>>>
>>>                 &END XC
>>>
>>> &END DFT
>>>
>>

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