Dear Matthias, <div><br /></div><div>Thank you! </div><div><br /></div><div>best</div><div>Andres <br /><br /></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024 a la(s) 5:18:12 p.m. UTC+1, Krack Matthias escribió:<br/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Such an explicit 0 or 1 occupation pattern cannot be enforced after the first SCF iteration step. Only the distribution of the available density in the selected orbital
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of <a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a> <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 8 November 2024 at 16:34<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CP2K:20888] Enforcing an specific occupation of d orbitals<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">Here I have defined two types of Fe , where in Fe1 <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">   <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">spin up      dz2=  1 dxz=  1, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">  spin down  dz2= 0 dxz=  0, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,</span><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">And for Fe2 </span><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">   <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">spin up      dz2=  0 dxz=  0, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">  spin down  dz2= 1 dxz=  1, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,</span><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I dont understand how can i distinguish in ORBITALS between spin up and down. </span><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Here is the input </span><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt">&KIND "Fe1"<br>
       BASIS_SET "TZV2P-MOLOPT-PBE-GTH-q16"<br>
       POTENTIAL "GTH-PBE-q16"<br>
      &DFT_PLUS_U<br>
        L 2<br>
        U [eV] 6.0<br>
        &ENFORCE_OCCUPATION on<br>
                MAX_SCF 5<br>
        #For spin Up dz2=  1 dxz=  1, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,<br>
        NELEC 4 2<br>
        ORBITALS -1 0 +1 +2<br>
        SMEAR<br>
        &END<br>
        &END DFT_PLUS_U<br>
       &BS T<br>
         &ALPHA<br>
           NEL -2 2<br>
           L 0 2<br>
           N 4 3<br>
         &END ALPHA<br>
         &BETA<br>
           NEL -2 -2<br>
           L 0 2<br>
           N 4 3<br>
         &END BETA<br>
       &END BS<br>
   &END KIND<br>
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   &KIND "Fe2"<br>
       BASIS_SET "TZV2P-MOLOPT-PBE-GTH-q16"<br>
       POTENTIAL "GTH-PBE-q16"<br>
      &DFT_PLUS_U<br>
        L 2<br>
        U [eV] 6.0<br>
        &ENFORCE_OCCUPATION on<br>
        NELEC 2 4<br>
        MAX_SCF 5<br>
        # d(xy), d(yz), d(xz)<br>
        ORBITALS -1 0 +1 +2<br>
        SMEAR<br>
        &END<br>
        &END DFT_PLUS_U<br>
       &BS T<br>
         &ALPHA<br>
           NEL -2 -2<br>
           L 0 2<br>
           N 4 3<br>
         &END ALPHA<br>
         &BETA<br>
           NEL -2 2<br>
           L 0 2<br>
           N 4 3<br>
         &END BETA<br>
       &END BS<br>
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Andres Ortega-Guerrero<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">You have to specify different atomic kinds for spin up and spin down, e.g. Fe_a and Fe_b, with different (complementary) &ALPHA ad &BETA sections in the &BS section for the initial guess.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>> on behalf of
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 8 November 2024 at 15:06<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CP2K:20883] Enforcing an specific occupation of d orbitals</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear Matthias ,<u></u><u></u></p>
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Many thanks! <u></u><u></u></p>
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If i may , I will ask a follow up , How do you distinguish between spin and spin down?<u></u><u></u></p>
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024 a la(s) 2:55:59<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>p.m. UTC+1, Krack Matthias escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">You can enforce an equal occupation of e.g. d(-2) d(-1) d(+1) in the first 5 SCF iterations with</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Note, that some DFT+U input parameters are only available with CP2K/SIRIUS (pwdft) and vice versa.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>> on behalf of
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 8 November 2024 at 14:25<br>
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CP2K:20880] Enforcing an specific occupation of d orbitals</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear Mathias , <u></u><u></u></p>
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Thank for your response , <u></u><u></u></p>
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I was wondering if you could maybe give an example ? I am still a lil lost on how is the format to represent what I got and/or the order <u></u><u></u></p>
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024 a la(s) 11:23:17<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>a.m. UTC+1, Krack Matthias escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt">Yes, you can specify a list of orbitals by their M values for the chosen L value. By default, the orbitals are filled one by one with the available electrons. With SMEAR the electronic density is smeared in the selected
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>> on behalf of
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<b>Date: </b>Friday, 8 November 2024 at 10:32<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CP2K:20877] Enforcing an specific occupation of d orbitals</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear Forum, <u></u><u></u></p>
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I am currently , trying to provide an starting electronic configuration to enforce the initial occupation of electrons in Fe. <u></u><u></u></p>
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I came accross with the option <u></u><u></u></p>
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ENFORCE_OCCUPATION for DFT+U <u></u><u></u></p>
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I was wondering if is possible to provide an initial occupation for the d orbitals in Fe <u></u><u></u></p>
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using the option <u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black;border:solid #6ab0de 2.25pt;padding:5.0pt;background:#e7f2fa">ORBITALS</span></b><em><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#2980b9;border:solid #6ab0de 2.25pt;padding:5.0pt;background:#e7f2fa">: integer= 0</span></b></em><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#2980b9;border:solid #6ab0de 2.25pt;padding:5.0pt;background:#e7f2fa"><a href="https://manual.cp2k.org/trunk/CP2K_INPUT/FORCE_EVAL/SUBSYS/KIND/DFT_PLUS_U/ENFORCE_OCCUPATION.html#CP2K_INPUT.FORCE_EVAL.SUBSYS.KIND.DFT_PLUS_U.ENFORCE_OCCUPATION.ORBITALS" title="Link to this definition" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?hl=es-419&q=https://manual.cp2k.org/trunk/CP2K_INPUT/FORCE_EVAL/SUBSYS/KIND/DFT_PLUS_U/ENFORCE_OCCUPATION.html%23CP2K_INPUT.FORCE_EVAL.SUBSYS.KIND.DFT_PLUS_U.ENFORCE_OCCUPATION.ORBITALS&source=gmail&ust=1731412678512000&usg=AOvVaw01J_tYE03-i9myKFhlcFDb"><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#404040;font-weight:normal">Á</span></a></span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040">Aliases:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"> M</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040">Usage:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040"> <em><span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif">ORBITALS 0 +1 -1</span></em></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040">For example if i would like a particular occupation like:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">spin up      dz2=  1 dxz=  1, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">spin down  dz2= 0 dxz=  0, dyz=  1, dx2-y2=  1 dxy=  0,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Lato",sans-serif;color:#404040">Like the control there is quantum espresso, starting_ns_eigenvalue  </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#404040;background:white">Is there any way to impose such starting occupation?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#404040;background:white">Best</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#404040;background:white">Andres Ortega-Guerrero</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#404040;background:white">nanotech@surfaces </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Roboto;color:#404040;background:white">EMPA</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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