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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE-CH" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear Léon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">a 32 H2O cell is still a relatively small system which can cause large fluctuations. I suggest to try at least the 6x6x6 = 216 H2O
<a href="https://github.com/cp2k/cp2k/blob/master/tests/Fist/regtest-water/H2O-TIP3P-6x6x6.inp">
input</a>. The sample should be equilibrated well in advance before starting the sampling run.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Matthias<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aptos",sans-serif;color:black">cp2k@googlegroups.com <cp2k@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Léon Luntadila Lufungula <Leon.luntadilalufungula@uantwerpen.be><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 22 January 2024 at 12:56<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <cp2k@googlegroups.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CP2K:19784] Cons. Qty for different ensembles + Pressure fluctuation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I ran several simulations on a box of 32 water molecules with the TIP3P force field:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">1) 1 ns NVE trajectory with timestep 0.5 fs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">2) 1 ns NVT trajectory at 298.15K with timestep 0.5 fs and thermostat time constant of 100fs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> 3) 1 ns NPT_I trajectory restarted from the final structure of the NVT trajectory at 298.15K and 1 bar with timestep 0.5 and thermostat and barostat time constants of 100 fs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I plotted the Cons. Qty [a.u.] vs. Time [fs] for the three simulations and saw that the constant of motion was only more or less constant for the NVE trajectory. The NVT and NPT
trajectories both had strong oscillations and significant drift of the constant of motion (see below) and I was wondering if this is normal behaviour or that this means that the system is not yet equilibrated? I would think that the Cons. Qty. should remain
constant but I can also understand that the thermostat and barostat might influence its behaviour in a way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">NVE:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">NVT:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The simulations of the water box were small test cases, but I also need to know what behaviour to expect when going to my production runs with my systems of interest...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Additionally, in the NPT ensemble, the pressure seems to fluctuate very strongly from -20000 to +20000 bar which seems to be quite excessive to me. Is this normal? I've also seen
this asked in <a href="https://groups.google.com/g/cp2k/c/gxA8r6wmyF4/m/k8QT7iglAAAJ">
another post</a>, but that person did not get a reply unfortunately....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks in advance for the help!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Léon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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