<span style="color: rgb(80, 0, 80);">Dear Jürg Hutter & cp2k experts</span><div><font color="#500050"><br /></font></div><div><font color="#500050">Thank you for your help.</font></div><div><font color="#500050"><br /></font></div><div><font color="#500050">Your results are great consistment.</font></div><div><font color="#500050">but, I did not get the same results.</font></div><div><font color="#500050">Probably, I think the accurate conditions for gaussian and cp2k program.</font></div><div><br /></div><div>If possible, it would be helpful if you could attach the file calculation terms or input failes (gaussian: .gjf , cp2k: .inp).</div><div><br /></div><div>regards</div><div>K.AK<br /><br /></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">2023年10月11日水曜日 16:16:38 UTC+9 Jürg Hutter:<br/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi
<br>
<br>for your reference, here are the charges I get after geometry optimization.
<br>I used default settings in both codes.
<br>                            G16              CP2K
<br>       1     C     0.302512        0.302685
<br>       2     C     0.056933        0.056588
<br>       3     N    -0.521581       -0.521206
<br>       4     C     0.650616        0.649432
<br>       5     N    -0.561838       -0.561196
<br>       6     C     0.487665        0.486565
<br>       7     F    -0.293979       -0.294131
<br>       8     O    -0.424335       -0.423591
<br>       9     H     0.296440        0.296449
<br>      10     O    -0.442591       -0.441756
<br>      11     H     0.299573        0.299576
<br>      12     H     0.150585        0.150585
<br>
<br>regards
<br>JH
<br>
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<br>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 2:50 AM
<br>To: cp2k
<br>Subject: Re: [CP2K:19346] cp2k vs. gaussian software
<br>
<br>Dear Jürg Hutter & cp2k experts
<br>
<br>I tried to simulate optimization with suggested conditions.
<br>
<br>But, the atomic charge were a little different in case of gaussian or cp2k software.
<br>I confirmed the structure consistment with before and after optimization.
<br>The results of mulliken atomic sharge are below.
<br>
<br>      Gaussian         cp2k
<br>F    -0.27228      -0.29413
<br>O   -0.476218    -0.424407
<br>O   -0.490938    -0.44221
<br>N   -0.571762    -0.522822
<br>H    0.29534       0.29644
<br>N   -0.611851    -0.56184
<br>H   0.298201      0.299782
<br>C   0.268481      0.302454
<br>C   0.569844      0.487981
<br>C   0.747199      0.650784
<br>C   0.092956      0.057482
<br>H   0.151035      0.150487
<br>
<br>What did the difference of charges be caused?
<br>Is this charge difference an acceptable difference in DFT field?
<br>
<br>regards
<br>K.AK
<br>2023年10月11日水曜日 0:02:21 UTC+9 K.AK:
<br>Dear Jürg Hutter & cp2k users
<br>
<br>Thank you for your suggestion.
<br>
<br>I try to do simutation with the set conditions you suggested.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>K.AK
<br>
<br>2023年10月10日火曜日 16:50:45 UTC+9 Jürg Hutter:
<br>Hi
<br>
<br>use a larger box.
<br>use a cubic box.
<br>use PERIODIC NONE and a corresponding POISSON SOLVER
<br>
<br>make the other changes I suggested.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>JH
<br>
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<br>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 9:46 AM
<br>To: cp2k
<br>Subject: Re: [CP2K:19332] cp2k vs. gaussian software
<br>
<br>Dear Jürg Hutter & cp2k community
<br>Thank you for reply.
<br>
<br>I confirmed the structure after geometry optimization.
<br>
<br>As attached snapshots, I get the much different structure of before and after optimization.
<br>I am putting in attachment the obtained snapshots (left:before, right: after).
<br>
<br>Probably, I think that the molecule connectivities did not keep the initial atoms under simulation.
<br>In case of Gaussian program, I confirmed the consistment of structure with before and after optimization.
<br>
<br>How do I solve this problem?
<br>Please advise the method to solve it.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>regards
<br>K.AK[before optimization.png][after optimization.png]
<br>2023年10月10日火曜日 16:21:51 UTC+9 Jürg Hutter:
<br>Hi
<br>
<br>I made some changes to your input:
<br>
<br>EPS_ISO -> use the default value
<br>&MGRID
<br>CUTOFF 400
<br>NGRIDS 4
<br>REL_CUTOFF 60
<br>&END MGRID
<br>I used the default interaction potential. You probably should use
<br>a setting for an isolated molecule (Poisson solver, Periodicity NONE)
<br>to get best comparison to QC programs.
<br>I also used an cubic box, I don't see why you have does angles defined.
<br>
<br>I calculated the charges at the initial geometry:
<br>
<br>CP2K G16
<br>1 C 0.298435 0.302041
<br>2 C 0.058327 0.056900
<br>3 N -0.521926 -0.521311
<br>4 C 0.648801 0.647720
<br>5 N -0.562059 -0.561722
<br>6 C 0.486531 0.485664
<br>7 F -0.297309 -0.295955
<br>8 O -0.430784 -0.419662
<br>9 H 0.303720 0.295938
<br>10 O -0.441045 -0.438800
<br>11 H 0.297841 0.299063
<br>12 H 0.159468 0.150124
<br>
<br>Maybe the different Mulliken charges are due to another problem,
<br>e.g. different geometries after optimization?
<br>
<br>regards
<br>JH
<br>
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<br>Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 11:29 AM
<br>To: cp2k
<br>Subject: [CP2K:19322] cp2k vs. gaussian software
<br>
<br>Dear experts,
<br>
<br>I am performing DFT calculations using the QS method.
<br>
<br>Also, I did the same optimization using Gaussian.
<br>In the case of Gaussian software, the simulated conditions were below.
<br>Basis set: 6-31G(d,p), Simulation: DFT, B3LYP
<br>
<br>But, the results of atomic charge caluculated from Mulliken population are much different.
<br>(I used ALL_POTINTIALS at cp2k/data/ as potentials.)
<br>
<br>Please advise about the cp2k simulation method and input file.
<br>
<br>I am putting in attachment my input.
<br>
<br>Best wishes
<br>K.AK
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