<div>Hi Jurg,</div><div><br /></div><div>Thank you a lot for the nice clarification.<br />This solved a lot of doubts for me.<br /><br />Best,<br />Lorenzo<br /></div><br /><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno venerdì 26 maggio 2023 alle 10:50:31 UTC+2 Jürg Hutter ha scritto:<br/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
<br>
<br>OT is a direct energy optimization method. As the energy doesn't depend on the virtual states, they cannot
<br>be calculated directly within the optimization.
<br>However, you can calculate additional states (LUMO +++) after an OT optimization. Several property options
<br>allow for such calculations (e.g. PRINT/MO_CUBES). Another possibility is to restart an optimized structure
<br>and  requesting a single diagonalization step.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>JH
<br>
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<br>Subject: [CP2K:18853] OT for added MOS
<br>
<br>Dear developers,
<br>
<br>I know that is not possible to perform SCF calculations using the OT scheme when extra molecular orbitals are requested.
<br>
<br>The problem is that for many not trivial systems the OT scheme is always able to reach a SCF convergence, while the standard DIAGONALIZATION algorithms ( no matter which combinations of parameters are used for the mixing ) fail, even starting from a  fully converged electron density reached with the OT scheme.
<br>Strict diagonalization algorithms  are also required in various subroutines like KPOINT, XAS and GW for example.
<br>
<br>Having the possibility to calculate added MOS using the OT scheme would be enormously beneficial in terms of applicability of the CP2K software and a considerable gain in computational resources.
<br>
<br>So, I was wondering if there is a specific reason why extra MO cannot be computed with the OT scheme, or more simply it has not been implemented yet.
<br>
<br>Thank you in advance for the help and clarifications.
<br>
<br>Kind regards,
<br>Lorenzo Agosta
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