Dear Matthias, <div>this could be an example </div><div><br /></div><div><br />&FORCE_EVAL<br />   &DFT<br />      BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_MOLOPT<br />      BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME BASIS_MOLOPT_UCL<br />      CHARGE 0<br />      &MGRID<br />         CUTOFF 700<br />         NGRIDS 5<br />         REL_CUTOFF 70<br />      &END MGRID<br />      MULTIPLICITY 0<br />      &POISSON<br />         PERIODIC XYZ<br />      &END POISSON<br />      POTENTIAL_FILE_NAME GTH_POTENTIALS<br />      &PRINT<br />         &MO_CUBES<br />            ADD_LAST SYMBOLIC<br />            &EACH<br />               CELL_OPT 0<br />               GEO_OPT 0<br />            &END EACH<br />            NHOMO 1<br />            NLUMO 1<br />            WRITE_CUBE .FALSE.<br />         &END MO_CUBES<br />         &MULLIKEN ON<br />            ADD_LAST SYMBOLIC<br />            &EACH<br />               CELL_OPT 0<br />               GEO_OPT 0<br />            &END EACH<br />         &END MULLIKEN<br />      &END PRINT<br />      &QS<br />         EPS_DEFAULT 1e-12<br />         METHOD GPW<br />      &END QS<br />      &SCF</div><div>EPS_SCF 5e-08<br />         MAX_ITER_LUMO 5000<br />         MAX_SCF 80<br />         &MIXING<br />            ALPHA 0.4<br />            BETA 0.5<br />            METHOD DIRECT_P_MIXING<br />         &END MIXING<br />         &OT<br />            MINIMIZER CG<br />            PRECONDITIONER FULL_ALL<br />         &END OT<br />         &OUTER_SCF<br />            EPS_SCF 5e-08<br />            MAX_SCF 60<br />         &END OUTER_SCF<br />         &PRINT<br />            &RESTART<br />               BACKUP_COPIES 0<br />            &END RESTART<br />         &END PRINT<br />      &END SCF<br />      UKS .FALSE.<br />      &XC<br />         DENSITY_CUTOFF 1e-10<br />         GRADIENT_CUTOFF 1e-10<br />         TAU_CUTOFF 1e-10<br />         &VDW_POTENTIAL<br />            &PAIR_POTENTIAL<br />               PARAMETER_FILE_NAME dftd3.dat<br />               REFERENCE_FUNCTIONAL PBE<br />               R_CUTOFF 10.0<br />               TYPE DFTD3(BJ)<br />            &END PAIR_POTENTIAL<br />            POTENTIAL_TYPE PAIR_POTENTIAL<br />         &END VDW_POTENTIAL<br />         &XC_FUNCTIONAL<br />            &PBE</div><div> PARAMETRIZATION ORIG<br />            &END PBE<br />         &END XC_FUNCTIONAL<br />      &END XC<br />   &END DFT<br />   METHOD QUICKSTEP<br />   STRESS_TENSOR ANALYTICAL<br />   &SUBSYS<br />      &CELL<br />         A -1.59515785     -2.7628944422923 -3.9070099102745e-16<br />         B -1.59515785     2.7628944422923 1.9535049551373e-16<br />         C 0.0             0.0             -14.879004<br />         MULTIPLE_UNIT_CELL 4 4 1<br />      &END CELL<br />      &KIND Mo<br />         BASIS_SET TZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH-q14<br />         POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q14<br />      &END KIND<br />      &KIND S<br />         BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH-q6<br />         POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q6<br />      &END KIND<br />      &TOPOLOGY<br />         COORD_FILE_FORMAT XYZ<br />         COORD_FILE_NAME aiida.coords.xyz<br />         MULTIPLE_UNIT_CELL 4 4 1<br />      &END TOPOLOGY<br />   &END SUBSYS<br />&END FORCE_EVAL</div><div>&GLOBAL<br />   ELPA_KERNEL GENERIC<br />   PRINT_LEVEL MEDIUM<br />   PROJECT aiida<br />   RUN_TYPE CELL_OPT<br />&END GLOBAL<br />&MOTION<br />   &CELL_OPT<br />      &BFGS<br />         TRUST_RADIUS [angstrom] 0.2<br />      &END BFGS<br />      EXTERNAL_PRESSURE [bar] 0.0<br />      KEEP_ANGLES .TRUE.<br />      KEEP_SYMMETRY .FALSE.<br />      MAX_DR [bohr] 0.0005<br />      MAX_FORCE [bohr^-1*hartree] 0.00010<br />      MAX_ITER 1000<br />      OPTIMIZER BFGS<br />      PRESSURE_TOLERANCE [bar] 100<br />      RMS_DR [bohr] 0.0005<br />      RMS_FORCE [bohr^-1*hartree] 0.00010<br />      TYPE DIRECT_CELL_OPT<br />   &END CELL_OPT<br />   &GEO_OPT<br />      &BFGS<br />         TRUST_RADIUS [angstrom] 0.20<br />      &END BFGS<br />      MAX_DR [bohr] 0.0005<br />      MAX_FORCE [bohr^-1*hartree] 0.00010<br />      MAX_ITER 1000<br />      OPTIMIZER BFGS<br />      RMS_DR [bohr] 0.0005<br />      RMS_FORCE [bohr^-1*hartree] 0.00010<br />      TYPE MINIMIZATION<br />   &END GEO_OPT</div><div>&PRINT<br />      &RESTART<br />         BACKUP_COPIES 0<br />         &EACH<br />            CELL_OPT 1<br />            GEO_OPT 1<br />            MD 1<br />         &END EACH<br />      &END RESTART<br />      &TRAJECTORY<br />         &EACH<br />            CELL_OPT 1<br />            GEO_OPT 1<br />            MD 1<br />         &END EACH<br />         FORMAT DCD_ALIGNED_CELL<br />      &END TRAJECTORY<br />   &END PRINT<br />&END MOTION<br />                                                                                                                                                                    161,1         Bot<br /><br /></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">El lunes, 24 de abril de 2023 a la(s) 18:08:49 UTC+2, Krack Matthias escribió:<br/></div><blo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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b>Von:</b> <a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a>>
<b>Im Auftrag von </b><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 24. April 2023 17:30<br>
<b>An:</b> cp2k <<a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [CP2K:18699] modification of CELL_ parameters<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dear Mathias, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I tried the KEEP_ANGLES, and indeed it keeps the cell vectors, but only the first step, after that it applies the same transformation . <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">CELL_REF| Volume [angstrom^3]:                                      2098.417005<br>
 CELL_REF| Vector a [angstrom    -6.381   -11.052    -0.000   |a| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL_REF| Vector b [angstrom    -6.381    11.052     0.000   |b| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL_REF| Vector c [angstrom     0.000     0.000   -14.879   |c| =    14.879004<br>
 CELL_REF| Angle (b,c), alpha [degree]:                                90.000000<br>
 CELL_REF| Angle (a,c), beta  [degree]:                                90.000000<br>
 CELL_REF| Angle (a,b), gamma [degree]:                               120.000000<br>
 CELL_REF| Numerically orthorhombic:                                          NO<br>
 CELL_OPT| Pressure tolerance [bar]:                                       100.0<br>
 CELL_OPT| Keep angles between the cell vectors:                             YES<br>
 CELL_OPT| Keep cell symmetry:                                                NO<br>
 CELL_OPT| Constraint:                                                      NONE<br>
 ***                     STARTING   CELL   OPTIMIZATION                      ***<br>
 CELL| Volume [angstrom^3]:                                          2098.417005<br>
 CELL| Vector a [angstrom]:      12.761     0.000     0.000   |a| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL| Vector b [angstrom]:      -6.381    11.052     0.000   |b| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL| Vector c [angstrom]:       0.000     0.000    14.879   |c| =    14.879004<br>
 CELL| Angle (b,c), alpha [degree]:                                    90.000000<br>
 CELL| Angle (a,c), beta  [degree]:                                    90.000000<br>
 CELL| Angle (a,b), gamma [degree]:                                   120.000000<br>
 CELL| Numerically orthorhombic:                                              NO<br>
 CELL| Volume [angstrom^3]:                                          2083.849671<br>
 CELL| Vector a [angstrom]:      12.727     0.000     0.000   |a| =    12.726904<br>
 CELL| Vector b [angstrom]:      -6.363    11.022     0.000   |b| =    12.726904<br>
 CELL| Vector c [angstrom]:       0.000     0.000    14.856   |c| =    14.855602<br>
 CELL| Angle (b,c), alpha [degree]:                                    90.000000<br>
 CELL| Angle (a,c), beta  [degree]:                                    90.000000<br>
 CELL| Angle (a,b), gamma [degree]:                                   120.000000<br>
 CELL| Numerically orthorhombic:                                              NO<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">I wonder if is possible to stop this behaviour , <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">best, <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Andres Ortega<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">El lunes, 24 de abril de 2023 a la(s) 17:09:45 UTC+2, Krack Matthias escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Yes, you can try KEEP_ANGLES, but this is not exactly the same constraint, because a and b are allowed to differ in length.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>> on behalf of
<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 24 April 2023 at 16:56<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CP2K:18697] modification of CELL_ parameters</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear Mathias , <u></u><u></u></p>
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thank you for your email <u></u><u></u></p>
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However how can I make a cell opt, where I keep the symmetry, <u></u><u></u></p>
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then I should just use KEEP_ANGLES , will it be enough?<u></u><u></u></p>
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best <u></u><u></u></p>
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Andres <u></u><u></u></p>
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El lunes, 24 de abril de 2023 a la(s) 16:40:52 UTC+2, Krack Matthias escribió:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="DE-CH">Hi Andres</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">The keyword </span>SYMMETRY MONOCLINIC_GAMMA_AB<span lang="EN-US"> changes the cell as requested. Drop that keyword, if you want to keep the cell vectors from your input.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">HTH</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span lang="EN-US">Matthias</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>> on behalf of
<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a></span> <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">oandr...@gmail.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 24 April 2023 at 16:33<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <<span><a href data-email-masked rel="nofollow">cp...@googlegroups.com</a></span>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CP2K:18695] modification of CELL_ parameters</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Dear Cp2k users and developers, <u></u><u></u></p>
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I was wondering if you could help me with a doubt i have , <u></u><u></u></p>
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does cp2k modifies the cell vectors (applies an operation to them) once you set up a cell opt calculations <u></u><u></u></p>
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for example <u></u><u></u></p>
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say you have a systems with these cell parameters in the input file <u></u><u></u></p>
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      &CELL<br>
         A -1.59515785     -2.7628944422923 -3.9070099102745e-16<br>
         B -1.59515785     2.7628944422923 1.9535049551373e-16<br>
         C 0.0             0.0             -14.879004<br>
         MULTIPLE_UNIT_CELL 4 4 1<br>
         SYMMETRY MONOCLINIC_GAMMA_AB<u></u><u></u></p>
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but once the simulations starts it becomes <u></u><u></u></p>
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CELL_TOP| Volume [angstrom^3]:                                      2098.417005<br>
 CELL_TOP| Vector a [angstrom    12.761     0.000     0.000   |a| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL_TOP| Vector b [angstrom    -6.381    11.052     0.000   |b| =    12.761263<br>
 CELL_TOP| Vector c [angstrom     0.000     0.000    14.879   |c| =    14.879004<br>
 CELL_TOP| Angle (b,c), alpha [degree]:                                90.000000<br>
 CELL_TOP| Angle (a,c), beta  [degree]:                                90.000000<br>
 CELL_TOP| Angle (a,b), gamma [degree]:                               120.000000<br>
 CELL_TOP| Requested initial symmetry:                       MONOCLINIC_GAMMA_AB<br>
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