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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Thank you dear Mattheas.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Best,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Victor<br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">*****************</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">
<span style="font-size:11pt" lang="DE-CH">Hi Victor</span>...</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">you need to add for each atomic kind the corresponding &KIND section for the GHOST kind like<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US">&KIND C_ghost<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US">BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-GTH<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US">GHOST<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Consolas" lang="EN-US">&END KIND<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">to get reasonable results.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Usually,
 one is interested in the last number, the “BSSE-free interaction 
energy” which is here the difference of the total energies from run (5) 
and runs (3) and (4),
 i.e. (5) – [(3) + (4)]. A positive value implies a repulsive 
interaction (no binding) after removing the BSSE via the counterpoise 
(CP) correction.</span></p>

</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:12 PM Krack Matthias (PSI) <<a href="mailto:matthias.krack@psi.ch">matthias.krack@psi.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3180507299752115616">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="DE-CH">Hi Victor<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="DE-CH"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Without the full input, it is difficult to make any suggestion. Do you have a &BSSE section defining the FRAGMENTS?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">Matthias<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black"><a href="mailto:cp2k@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">cp2k@googlegroups.com</a> <<a href="mailto:cp2k@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">cp2k@googlegroups.com</a>> on behalf of Victor Volkov <<a href="mailto:volkovskr@gmail.com" target="_blank">volkovskr@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, 15 October 2022 at 19:53<br>
<b>To: </b>cp2k <<a href="mailto:cp2k@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">cp2k@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CP2K:17873] understanding BSSE print out<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dear members:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">good evening/morning.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">it is not clear to me how to interpret CP2K print out for BSSE.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">If I take a small guest (like benzene) next to a carbon layer using GWP/PBE/DZVP<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Of course, since interactions are so week, DFTD3 is a must - otherwise a benzene may "fly away".<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Then, using BSSE  for S1(guest) and S2 (carbon layer)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">S1 + S2ghost: Total energy -455.12112693238430 Hartree<br>
S1ghost + S2: Total energy -455.12112693238430 Hartree<br>
S1           + S2: Total energy -455.12112693238441 Hartree<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">The differences are none or tiny.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">However, the final print is:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">CP-corrected Total energy:        0.015729
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1-body contribution:                 -44.96634268204556 <br>
1-body contribution:                -410.13905550190344<br>
2-body contribution:                 455.121127 <br>
BSSE-free interaction energy:      455.121127<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">First, it is not clear what is "CP".</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Next, i<b>f this is the value of the BSSE artifact</b> (due to the wave-function truncation),
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">then
<b>its huge</b> 41.2964895 kJ/mole.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">This would be
<b>almost twice larger than the binding energy</b> of benzene-like guests when at carbonaceous surfaces.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">This would mean that quality evaluations of binding energies for such systems using CP2K would be very difficult.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Any comments to hear would be nice.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Finally, it is not clear why 2-body contribution and<b> BSSE-free interaction are printed as positive numbers</b>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">I hope the questions I ask be interesting for users and helpful for the on-line manual to update.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">After all, I wish to note that it was by a
<b>rare chance I was able to track</b> the old <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">notice
<b>on the importance of declaring</b><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">    &KIND X_ghost<br>
     BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH<br>
     GHOST<br>
    &END KIND <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Even though ...
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">if I skip such definition, the numbers would come "a bit better"</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">:-)</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">CP would be about 21 kJ/mole, what is about comparable to the binding energy
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">of a benzene-like guest to a carbonaceous material.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thank you for your time and attention.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">I wish everybody be well and happy.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt">Victor<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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