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Hi Yike,</div>
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For me, the scf did converge.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 11, 2022 11:55 PM<br>
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<div>Did your scf converge? I also calculated Ni(111) slab and it can converge by changing the criteria but the scf didn't converge after even 500 steps.</div>
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Dear Thomas,</div>
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Thanks again! It finally converged after 64 optimization steps with all the criteria being YES.</div>
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<div>this is to say that your SCF to compute the electronic structure incl. total energy and most importantly the forces is converging. </div>
<div>Your geometry optimization loop, however, has just completed 21 iterations and is not converged as yet. For CG and BFGS all </div>
<div>criteria must be YES in order to complete your geometry optimization. However, LBFGS may be fast converging, but I am not </div>
<div>sure if they rely on the same criteria and not on the WANTED* criteria. </div>
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<div>Thanks for your suggestion! I changed the alpha value to 0.1, and the energy did become less fluctuating. However, the status in the convergence check still showed NO for all four parameters after 21 optimization steps (as shown below). Does it mean that
I need to lower the alpha value further? Or will it become YES in the end even if I don't change the alpha value anymore?</div>
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<div>your alpha value is definitely too large, try 0.1 or smaller. </div>
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I'm running a geometry optimization for Ni(111) containing 288 atoms. However, the energy seems to fluctuate a lot, and the system does not tend to converge. Could someone give me some advice on what I can do in this case? My input and output files are attached
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