<div dir="ltr">Thanks Matt.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Xiaoming Wang<br><br>On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 1:42:00 PM UTC-4, Matt W wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><Shameless advertisement><div><br></div><div><a href="https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.5029818" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Faip.scitation.org%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1063%2F1.5029818\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGDQ3wVCVH96IPXd1tnOXA8mNaB5w';return true;" onclick="this.href='https://www.google.com/url?q\x3dhttps%3A%2F%2Faip.scitation.org%2Fdoi%2Fabs%2F10.1063%2F1.5029818\x26sa\x3dD\x26sntz\x3d1\x26usg\x3dAFQjCNGDQ3wVCVH96IPXd1tnOXA8mNaB5w';return true;">https://aip.scitation.org/doi/<wbr>abs/10.1063/1.5029818</a></div><div><br></div><div>Certainly contains a fairly good literature on the subject.</div><div><br></div><div><div><\Shameless advertisement></div></div><div><br></div><div>Matt</div><div><br><br>On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 3:53:56 PM UTC+1, Xiaoming Wang wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Xiaoming Wang<br><br>On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 3:34:52 AM UTC-4, jgh wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
<br>
<br>I am not sure, but think DDAPC suffers from the same problem.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>
<br>Juerg
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<br>Date: 08/16/2018 04:48PM
<br>Subject: Re: [CP2K:10640] electrostatic decoupling
<br>
<br>Dear Prof. Hutter,
<br>
<br>Thanks for your explanations and suggestion. I will read the
<br>corresponding papers. Btw, does the ddapc method solve
<br>this problem? There is a 'e_decpl' decoupling energy in the
<br>cp_ddapc_apply_CD. Or it still suffers the same
<br>problem?
<br>
<br>Best,
<br>Xiaoming
<br>
<br>
<br>On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 8:12:32 AM UTC-4, jgh wrote:Hi
<br>
<br>your problem is related to the ill-defined energy of a charge
<br>in a periodic system.
<br>Your energy 1 is calculated with a background charge to nuetralize
<br>the charge of your orbital. In energy 2, the isolated system,
<br>no such background charge is needed.
<br>
<br>If you want to get some idea how to attack this problem, I would
<br>suggest to read the vast literature on the calculation of
<br>charged defects in solids. Start with the recent work of Pasquarello.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>
<br>Juerg
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<br>Date: 08/15/2018 10:05PM
<br>Subject: [CP2K:10631] electrostatic decoupling
<br>
<br>Hello,
<br>
<br>I'd like to decouple the the Coulomb interaction between the electron of one specific state, say HOMO,
<br>and its periodic images, for a fully periodic DFT calculation. The interested charge density is localized.
<br>I have tried to use different poisson solvers, say MT or WAVELET, to achieve my goal. So first I extracted
<br>the the charge density from mo_coeff. Then called the poisson solver.
<br>
<br>pw_poisson_solve(poisson_env, orb_rho_g%pw, ener1, v_gspace1%pw)
<br>
<br>with poisson environment PERIODIC3D. Next I changed the poisson_env to MT0D, then called poisson
<br>solver once more.
<br>
<br>pw_poisson_solve(poisson_env, orb_rho_g%pw, ener2, v_gspace2%pw)
<br>
<br>Finally, the decoupling energy is deltaE = ener1 - ener2. I thought deltaE should be a very small
<br>number, because the charge density of that state is quite localized and my unit cell is big enough for
<br>the MT solver. However, I got a very large deltaE 0.05 Ha. Also the value is negative, which means the
<br>Hartree energy is higher for the decoupled case. I cannot understand this, because I think the image
<br>interaction would increase the energy. So can anyone give some advice?
<br>
<br>Best,
<br>Xiaoming Wang
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