<div dir="ltr">Dear Professor Hutte,<br>Thanks a lot. I have test for different Cutoff. Indeed when I use GAPW, I find that 300 Ry is quite enough.<div>Best regards,</div><div>jia</div><div><br>On Wednesday, August 12, 2015 at 10:30:08 AM UTC+2, jgh wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
<br>
<br>if you are using GAPW you most likely can keep the Cutoff rather
<br>low (about 200-300), but in any case I would set the REL_CUTOFF
<br>to a value of 50-60.
<br>If possible I would also not use the smoothing with GAPW.
<br>
<br>regards
<br>
<br>Juerg 
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<br>Date: 08/12/2015 10:17AM
<br>Subject: Re: [CP2K:6898] Why the trajecoty of na atom is fixed ?
<br>
<br>Prof. Hutter,Thanks for your reply! I have considered your suggestion of CUTOFF, functional and GAPW and smoothen.
<br>Now the reatart file is like this:
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>The result is as follows.
<br>(1) If we only increase CUTOFF,  or  or change the functional from BLYP to PBE, the Na atoms are still fixed.(2) With the GAPW, the Na atoms moves.(3)  And for the test we increase CUTOFF, change the functional to PBE, use GAPW and XC_SMOOTH_RHO, the Na atoms moves. The trajectory for 0.36 ps is shown here.
<br>So the main reason is I did not use GAPW before.PS: --Because this is a test model,  I still kept the long range correction. For the NLCC pseudopotentials, after reading  Alex Willand et al  's paper (2013), Norm-conserving pseudopotentials with chemical accuracy compared to all-electron calculations. I also did not use the NLCC pseudopotentials. (<a href="http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/jcp/138/10/10.1063/1.4793260" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fscitation.aip.org%2Fcontent%2Faip%2Fjournal%2Fjcp%2F138%2F10%2F10.1063%2F1.4793260\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNFSf4DC30LQEE6XQGXs0pXJjeIfNA';return true;" onclick="this.href='http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fscitation.aip.org%2Fcontent%2Faip%2Fjournal%2Fjcp%2F138%2F10%2F10.1063%2F1.4793260\46sa\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNFSf4DC30LQEE6XQGXs0pXJjeIfNA';return true;">http://scitation.aip.org/<wbr>content/aip/journal/jcp/138/<wbr>10/10.1063/1.4793260</a>) 
<br>--Now the input (restart file) is as follows.
<br>        
<br>        
<br>        
<br>
<br>
<br>&GLOBAL
<br>   PRINT_LEVEL  MEDIUM
<br>   PROJECT_NAME 2w_2Na 
<br>   RUN_TYPE  MD
<br> &END GLOBAL
<br> &MOTION
<br>   &GEO_OPT
<br>     TYPE  MINIMIZATION
<br>     OPTIMIZER  BFGS
<br>     MAX_ITER  20
<br>   &END GEO_OPT
<br>   &MD
<br>     ENSEMBLE  NVT
<br>     STEPS  1000
<br>     TIMESTEP     4.9999999999999989E-01
<br>     STEP_START_VAL  1584
<br>     TIME_START_VAL     7.9200000000000932E+02
<br>     ECONS_START_VAL    -2.2970419127064038E+03
<br>     TEMPERATURE     3.3000000000000006E+02
<br>     TEMP_TOL     8.0000000000000000E+01
<br>     &THERMOSTAT
<br>       &NOSE
<br>         LENGTH  3
<br>         YOSHIDA  3
<br>         TIMECON     9.9999999999999955E+02
<br>         MTS  2
<br>         &COORD
<br>               4.6804334715900502E-02    6.4063067951588215E-01   -1.7671728013981677E-01
<br>         &END COORD
<br>         &VELOCITY
<br>               1.0848945164897635E-06    4.3154851784712554E-05    1.1317451952244691E-06
<br>         &END VELOCITY
<br>         &MASS
<br>               1.5271179928232741E+09    1.7861029155827765E+06    1.7861029155827765E+06
<br>         &END MASS
<br>         &FORCE
<br>              -1.1179502436284231E-12    4.2123153718162141E-10    1.2772410940594576E-09
<br>         &END FORCE
<br>       &END NOSE
<br>     &END THERMOSTAT
<br>     &AVERAGES  T
<br>       &RESTART_AVERAGES
<br>         ITIMES_START  1
<br>         AVECPU     8.3660323358309768E+01
<br>         AVEHUGONIOT     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>         AVETEMP_BARO     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>         AVEPOT    -1.2952630029344064E+03
<br>         AVEKIN     2.7106480019472567E-01
<br>         AVETEMP     3.5561567432356406E+02
<br>         AVEKIN_QM     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>         AVETEMP_QM     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>         AVEVOL     5.1174547637613250E+04
<br>         AVECELL_A     5.8581510119454805E+01
<br>         AVECELL_B     2.9556072608784607E+01
<br>         AVECELL_C     2.9556072608784607E+01
<br>         AVEALPHA     9.0000000000000043E+01
<br>         AVEBETA     9.0000000000000043E+01
<br>         AVEGAMMA     9.0000000000000043E+01
<br>         AVE_ECONS     3.9657707679004423E+07
<br>         AVE_PRESS     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>         AVE_PXX     0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>       &END RESTART_AVERAGES
<br>     &END AVERAGES
<br>   &END MD
<br>   &PRINT
<br>     &TRAJECTORY  SILENT
<br>       &EACH
<br>         MD  1
<br>       &END EACH
<br>     &END TRAJECTORY
<br>     &VELOCITIES  ON
<br>       &EACH
<br>         MD  1
<br>       &END EACH
<br>     &END VELOCITIES
<br>     &FORCES  ON
<br>       &EACH
<br>         MD  1
<br>       &END EACH
<br>     &END FORCES
<br>     &RESTART  SILENT
<br>       BACKUP_COPIES  1
<br>       &EACH
<br>         MD  1
<br>       &END EACH
<br>     &END RESTART
<br>     &RESTART_HISTORY  SILENT
<br>       &EACH
<br>         MD  1000
<br>       &END EACH
<br>     &END RESTART_HISTORY
<br>   &END PRINT
<br> &END MOTION
<br> &FORCE_EVAL
<br>   METHOD  QS
<br>   &DFT
<br>     BASIS_SET_FILE_NAME ../BASIS_MOLOPT
<br>     POTENTIAL_FILE_NAME ../GTH_POTENTIALS
<br>     &SCF
<br>       MAX_SCF  300
<br>       EPS_SCF     4.9999999999999998E-07
<br>       SCF_GUESS  RESTART
<br>       &OT  T
<br>       &END OT
<br>     &END SCF
<br>     &QS
<br>       EPS_DEFAULT     9.9999999999999998E-13
<br>       EXTRAPOLATION  PS
<br>       EXTRAPOLATION_ORDER  3
<br>       METHOD  GAPW
<br>     &END QS
<br>     &MGRID
<br>       CUTOFF     9.0000000000000000E+02
<br>     &END MGRID
<br>     &XC
<br>       DENSITY_CUTOFF     1.0000000000000000E-10
<br>       GRADIENT_CUTOFF     1.0000000000000000E-10
<br>       TAU_CUTOFF     1.0000000000000000E-10
<br>       &XC_GRID
<br>         XC_SMOOTH_RHO  SPLINE3
<br>       &END XC_GRID
<br>       &XC_FUNCTIONAL  NO_SHORTCUT
<br>         &BECKE88  T
<br>         &END BECKE88
<br>         &LYP  T
<br>         &END LYP
<br>       &END XC_FUNCTIONAL
<br>       &VDW_POTENTIAL
<br>         POTENTIAL_TYPE  PAIR_POTENTIAL
<br>         &PAIR_POTENTIAL
<br>           R_CUTOFF     8.0000000000000000E+00
<br>           TYPE  DFTD3
<br>           PARAMETER_FILE_NAME ../dftd3.dat
<br>           REFERENCE_FUNCTIONAL PBE
<br>           EPS_CN     1.0000000000000000E-02
<br>           CALCULATE_C9_TERM  T
<br>           REFERENCE_C9_TERM  T
<br>           LONG_RANGE_CORRECTION  T
<br>         &END PAIR_POTENTIAL
<br>       &END VDW_POTENTIAL
<br>     &END XC
<br>   &END DFT
<br>   &SUBSYS
<br>     &CELL
<br>       A     3.1000000000000011E+01    0.0000000000000000E+00    0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>       B     0.0000000000000000E+00    1.5640400000000005E+01    0.0000000000000000E+00
<br>       C     0.0000000000000000E+00    0.0000000000000000E+00    1.5640400000000005E+01
<br>       MULTIPLE_UNIT_CELL  1 1 1
<br>     &END CELL
<br>     &COORD
<br>Na    1.3286318921035836E+01    1.3614063967463656E+01    1.1728050930092907E+01
<br>Na    1.2523358969849829E+01   -7.3462122629921822E-01    9.7120169705560766E+00
<br>O    2.0870269874930649E+00    4.0865703183420337E+00    5.8562334048014435E+00
<br>H    2.0316447793438357E+00    5.0584745221132268E+00    5.9610023039145279E+00
<br>H    1.3184285000575218E+00    3.8776053202627789E+00    5.3040976629339323E+00
<br>O    3.1555919884652632E+00    9.2452722166802115E+00    1.4471916934492752E+01
<br>H    3.7928078117053126E+00    9.9774533993926227E+00    1.4468959613505644E+01
<br>H    3.4123636142611913E+00    8.6672215399732266E+00    1.3736009577898940E+01
<br>     &END COORD
<br>     &VELOCITY
<br>          -4.4606192041125074E-05    2.2910283712135158E-04   -4.0036861008258982E-04
<br>           7.3058239091108217E-05   -2.0125235933338208E-04    3.6332784105453752E-04
<br>           3.8266565551863624E-05   -3.5874524380332236E-05   -1.0679085397068891E-04
<br>          -6.3236824320307033E-04    4.0174318998758783E-05    1.3824215141977153E-04
<br>          -1.4467395239910316E-04    2.0218266649262508E-04    7.9202921271559446E-04
<br>          -2.2171434510392410E-05   -6.2950590932101455E-05    8.8168050258192519E-05
<br>           5.2982772704762990E-05    1.3930419146095219E-04   -1.8036331754184572E-04
<br>          -1.7331312353883934E-04    5.3845779124284576E-04    3.9591238206890749E-04
<br>     &END VELOCITY
<br>     &KIND H
<br>       BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
<br>       POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q1
<br>       &BASIS
<br>1
<br>2 0 1 5 2 1
<br>0.1006846822853300E+02 -0.3391744490000000E-01  0.5919377550000000E-01  0.9905134400000000E-02
<br>0.2680222868089000E+01 -0.1222022121000000E+00  0.8433183289000000E+00  0.1224495665000000E+00
<br>0.7915015391220001E+00 -0.4438188612000000E+00 -0.1155707115500000E+01  0.4771832409000000E+00
<br>0.2391161504870000E+00 -0.4531821866000000E+00  0.4947962120000000E-01  0.5479196782000000E+00
<br>0.8219318444100000E-01 -0.1316128615000000E+00  0.5227087380000000E+00  0.8690318540000000E+00
<br>       &END BASIS
<br>       &POTENTIAL
<br>1
<br>0.2000000000000000E+00 2 -0.4195961470000000E+01  0.7304982100000000E+00
<br>0
<br>       &END POTENTIAL
<br>     &END KIND
<br>     &KIND O
<br>       BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
<br>       POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q6
<br>       &BASIS
<br>1
<br>2 0 2 5 2 2 1
<br>0.1038922801831700E+02  0.1262407229000000E+00  0.6921579790000000E-01 -0.6130203720000000E-01 -0.2686270110000000E-01  0.2984522750000000E-01
<br>0.3849621072005000E+01  0.1399337043000000E+00  0.1156345389000000E+00 -0.1900875117000000E+00 -0.6283021000000000E-02  0.6093973390000000E-01
<br>0.1388401188741000E+01 -0.4343482317000000E+00 -0.3228397194000000E+00 -0.3777269828000000E+00 -0.2248391878000000E+00  0.7323215801000000E+00
<br>0.4969550436550000E+00 -0.8527917909000000E+00 -0.9594401660000000E-01 -0.4542660860000000E+00  0.3803246586000000E+00  0.8935649184000000E+00
<br>0.1624916150400000E+00 -0.2423515378000000E+00  0.1102830348700000E+01 -0.2573889830000000E+00  0.1054102919900000E+01  0.1529541887000000E+00
<br>       &END BASIS
<br>       &POTENTIAL
<br>2 4
<br>0.2434202600000000E+00 2 -0.1699189235000000E+02  0.2566142060000000E+01
<br>2
<br>0.2208314000000000E+00 1  0.1838885102000000E+02
<br>0.2172007000000000E+00 0
<br>       &END POTENTIAL
<br>     &END KIND
<br>     &KIND I
<br>       BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
<br>       POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q7
<br>       &BASIS
<br>1
<br>2 0 2 5 2 2 1
<br>0.9661726937760000E+00 -0.4724631893510000E+00  0.1555822203873000E+01 -0.4312534730020000E+00  0.4374991361440000E+00  0.7909099814790000E+00
<br>0.8288855705270000E+00 -0.4617483861400000E-01 -0.4052453983040000E+00  0.4054481330980000E+00 -0.3608369749790000E+00 -0.7067391303230000E+00
<br>0.3671593108060000E+00  0.6748660286690000E+00  0.8373462810420000E+00  0.1544082880420000E+00 -0.4269558193280000E+00 -0.1146102256372000E+01
<br>0.2013691068320000E+00  0.4418461904320000E+00 -0.2170714561688000E+01  0.3071310887970000E+00 -0.1428790897200000E+00 -0.1473453298743000E+01
<br>0.8301507112600000E-01  0.1477007514960000E+00  0.2099200395478000E+01  0.1514523567510000E+00  0.1946428231727000E+01 -0.5177497012720000E+00
<br>       &END BASIS
<br>       &POTENTIAL
<br>2 5
<br>0.5600000000000001E+00 1  0.1373638610000000E+02
<br>3
<br>0.5893900100000000E+00 3  0.2139348900000000E+00  0.8845652600000000E+00 -0.2067022000000000E-01
<br>-0.1175588960000000E+01  0.5337028000000000E-01
<br>-0.4236135000000000E-01
<br>0.5423271700000000E+00 2  0.2872106600000000E+00  0.4693267100000000E+00
<br>-0.5553148500000000E+00
<br>0.7704050700000000E+00 1  0.3070961500000000E+00
<br>       &END POTENTIAL
<br>     &END KIND
<br>     &KIND Li
<br>       BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
<br>       POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q3
<br>     &END KIND
<br>     &KIND Na
<br>       BASIS_SET DZVP-MOLOPT-SR-GTH
<br>       POTENTIAL GTH-PBE-q9
<br>       &BASIS
<br>1
<br>2 0 1 7 3 2
<br>0.2351880076196000E+02  0.3779826805300000E-01  0.5040470618000000E-02  0.3777907065700000E-01 -0.4123515085400000E-01 -0.5410838671000000E-02
<br>0.1113565610327500E+02  0.1804152720160000E+00  0.3121004835600000E-01 -0.1196144293190000E+00 -0.1027040656580000E+00 -0.1760933831700000E-01
<br>0.4647813820246000E+01 -0.8423548988500000E-01 -0.2121458488700000E-01  0.2243024957020000E+00 -0.2765071563740000E+00 -0.4380300865300000E-01
<br>0.1866708259982000E+01 -0.5020072394680000E+00 -0.8800642668000000E-01 -0.1837798132120000E+00 -0.4050879856000000E+00 -0.6784423562300000E-01
<br>0.7346836971960000E+00 -0.4874547129940000E+00 -0.2415626435800000E+00  0.1641649867502000E+01 -0.3456697625980000E+00 -0.8505797401200001E-01
<br>0.2756729958600000E+00 -0.8890985577799999E-01  0.4606950361200000E-01 -0.2281564821968000E+01 -0.1282947247740000E+00  0.1595277707190000E+00
<br>0.4989510824500000E-01 -0.2456248530000000E-03  0.1008694292400000E+01  0.8016609909810000E+00 -0.2074313963000000E-02  0.9821494245680000E+00
<br>       &END BASIS
<br>       &POTENTIAL
<br>3 6
<br>0.2339650200000000E+00 2 -0.2689483460000000E+01 -0.5094777000000000E+00
<br>2
<br>0.1497769000000000E+00 1  0.3285715860000000E+02
<br>0.1231990100000000E+00 1 -0.1399900802000000E+02
<br>       &END POTENTIAL
<br>     &END KIND
<br>     &TOPOLOGY
<br>       NUMBER_OF_ATOMS  8
<br>       MULTIPLE_UNIT_CELL  1 1 1
<br>     &END TOPOLOGY
<br>   &END SUBSYS
<br> &END FORCE_EVAL
<br>
<br>
<br>With best regards,jia
<br>
<br>On Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 9:22:59 AM UTC+2, jgh wrote:Hi
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>there is a known issue with the BLYP functional on low cutoff grids
<br>
<br>with high density ions. 
<br>
<br>You could switch functional, increase (considerably) the cutoff,
<br>
<br>use GAPW, use NLCC pseudopotentials, use smoothened density (see XC section).
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>BTW: your definition of the D3 vdW correction has some inconsistencies:
<br>
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<br>- you use PBE as reference functional (not BLYP?)
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<br>- you have a small system, long range correction should not be used
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<br>  ( this simulates a uniform system)
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<br>regards
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<br>Juerg Hutter
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