To elaborate on what Teo said, (he can correct me if I am wrong)<br><br>In NVT, the total energy of the *real sytem + thermostat* should be conserved.<br>(I don't remember if CP2K outputs this quantity, but most codes should).<br>
<br>The total energy of just the real system (atoms,molecules,etc.) should have a mean value (after equilibration) with fluctuations proportional to 1/sqrt(N) (or something like that).<br><br>If the total energy of the real system increases or decreases without bounds, then there is something wrong.<br>
Or maybe you are near some phase transition.<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Teodoro Laino <<a href="mailto:teodor...@gmail.com">teodor...@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Ciao Diederica,<br>
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> These are added, as an attachment this time<br>
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</div>Thanks.. will look into this problem ASAP.<br>
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> I'm modelling an isolated molecule, it should fit in the box. Using<br>
> NVE without temperature rescaling, with an analogue structure, an<br>
> energy drift was observed, that got worse after about 20 ps, though<br>
> no non-convergence was observed. The input file and an energy-plot<br>
> are added.<br>
</div>If you have a drift with NVE this means that energy and forces are<br>
not consistent.. or (what I assume) that the cutoff for the coulomb<br>
interactions is not large enough..<br>
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Please put all of the RC_COULOMB and RC_INTERACTION and RC_RANGE to<br>
50.0.<br>
You've the problem that in your cell the standard range (24 bohr)<br>
does not fully cover the extension of your molecule (more than 26 bohr).<br>
Use a larger box (30.0 Angstrom) and set the above keywords to 50.0<br>
bohr.<br>
You should not see any jump in the energy (or drift)..<br>
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> The potential and kinetic energy are conserved indeed, but the<br>
> conserved quantity is not<br>
</div>Sorry to disprove you, but it is not possible that in an NVT you have<br>
kinetic and potential conserved, since the thermostat<br>
is continuously exchanging energy with the system. I't s a matter of<br>
concept.. we may discuss about the magnitude of the<br>
thermostat energy.. but that's another story..<br>
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Cheers<br>
teo<br>
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> For the next time, can you please put tables and input files as<br>
> attachment (maybe .tgz) so that the formatting of mail readers are<br>
> not changed and the input files not digested ? Thanks..<br>
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> Ciao,<br>
> teo<br>
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> Thanks for helping!<br>
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> Greetz,<br>
> Diederica<br>
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