[CP2K-user] [CP2K:22267] Spin polarized calculation with xTB
Dmitry Ryndyk
dmitry.ryndyk at tu-dresden.de
Mon Jun 8 13:36:11 UTC 2026
Dear all,
What is going on at present?
The xTB site
<https://xtb-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/spgfn.html#spgfnn-xtb> states
that spin-polarized calculations with tblite are possible, and
spin-dependent Hamiltonians are described in the 2023 paper
<https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jcc.27185>.
Moreover, at the CP2K site
<https://manual.cp2k.org/trunk/CP2K_INPUT/FORCE_EVAL/DFT/QS/XTB/TBLITE.html>,
it is written:
*Spin-polarized CP2K/tblite calculations are selected with the regular
DFT/UKS keyword or its LSD/SPIN_POLARIZED aliases; DFT/MULTIPLICITY sets
the number of unpaired electrons. UKS uses tblite’s spin-polarized
Hamiltonian.*
At the moment, however, it seems to be blocked. One always gets restricted
orbitals.
Any ideas?
Best wishes,
Dmitry
hut... at chem.uzh.ch schrieb am Freitag, 5. März 2021 um 19:09:23 UTC+1:
> Hi
>
> you can calculate a triplet using UKS. For xTB the results should
> show equal orbital energies for alpha and beta spin, even though
> the occupations will be different.
>
> regards
>
> Juerg
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> From: "Pierre-André Cazade"
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> Date: 03/05/2021 05:16PM
> Subject: Re: [CP2K:14885] Spin polarized calculation with xTB
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> Dear Juerg,
>
> It's a very interesting topic. Provided what you described in your reply,
> is it possible to use xTB for a triplet state? If yes, is it necessary to
> use UKS, since the Hamiltonian doesn't have spin-dependence?
>
> Regards,
> Pierre
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:42 PM <hut... at chem.uzh.ch> wrote:
> Hi
>
> you can use unrestricted calculations also with xTB. However,
> the xTB Hamiltonian doesn't have a spin dependence. So what you
> get is the same as using a restricted open shell calculation.
> Unrestricted is double the work, but can use OT methods.
> Restricted open shell (ROKS will not work btw) will need
> diagonalization and smearing. What is more efficient in the end
> might depend on your system.
>
> best regards
>
> Juerg Hutter
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> To: "cp2k" <cp... at googlegroups.com>
> From: "Mauro Sgroi"
> Sent by: cp... at googlegroups.com
> Date: 03/05/2021 09:33AM
> Subject: [CP2K:14881] Spin polarized calculation with xTB
>
> Dear all,
> I'm trying to understand if it is possible to use xTB to perform spin
> polarized calculations.
> If yes, which is the right way to proceed?
> Is there an howto to follow?
>
> Thannks a lot and best regards,
> Mauro Sgroi
> Centro Ricerche FIAT
> Italy
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