[CP2K-user] [CP2K:18800] Bulk nickel optimization cannot converge under specific multiplicity

[Krack Matthias]

Hi Geng

Maybe, something is wrong with your atomic coordinates which you did not reveal.

Matthias

From: cp2k at googlegroups.com <cp2k at googlegroups.com> on behalf of GENG YUAN <yuangeng0821 at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 10 May 2023 at 16:52
To: cp2k <cp2k at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [CP2K:18799] Bulk nickel optimization cannot converge under specific multiplicity
Hi Matthias,

I added k points (I tried two sets of k points: 2x2x1 & 3x3x2) to both cases (Multiplicity =1 &193) for my bulk Ni. I also played with different smearing temperatures (500 & 1000 & 1500 K) for each simulation with specified k points.

My simulations with Multiplicity = 1 always converged no matter what combination of settings, however, none of my simulations converged with Multiplicity = 193. Therefore, my current understanding is that the k points may not be the issue. What else do you think I can give a shot?

My inputs and outputs with k points & higher smearing temperature under multiplicity 1 & 193 are attached.

Many thanks,
Sincerely,
Geng
在2023年5月4日星期四 UTC-4 11:50:11<Krack Matthias> 写道：
Hi Geng

Did you try to add k points already, because you have bulk metal system?

HTH

Matthias

From: cp... at googlegroups.com <cp... at googlegroups.com> on behalf of GENG YUAN <yuange... at gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, 4 May 2023 at 17:36
To: cp2k <cp... at googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [CP2K:18765] Bulk nickel optimization cannot converge under specific multiplicity
Hi Matthias,

Many thanks for your advice, yes, I tried higher temperature at 1000 and 1500 K for both cases.

Still, the optimization with default value of multiplicity (1) could converge at either 1000K or 1500K, but it couldn't converge with multiplicity of 193 under these higher temperatures.

Should I try much higher temperatures or please let me know if you have any other thought.

Sincerely,
Geng
在2023年5月4日星期四 UTC-4 03:11:14<Krack Matthias> 写道：
Hi

Did you try already a larger smearing temperature than 500 K?

Matthias

From: cp... at googlegroups.com <cp... at googlegroups.com> on behalf of GENG YUAN <yuange... at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 3 May 2023 at 20:03
To: cp2k <cp... at googlegroups.com>
Subject: [CP2K:18760] Bulk nickel optimization cannot converge under specific multiplicity
Dear all,

I am trying to optimize a bulk nickel with 96 atoms. As Ni is supposed to be ferromagnetic, I performed the optimization with a multiplicity of 96*2+1=193 but the energy couldn't converge within 500 SCF steps. However, I found that it could converge if I only change the multiplicity to its default value (1).

My inputs and outputs for both cases are attached, the only difference between these two cases is the multiplicity in the input file (one is 1 while the other is 193). I am wondering why the optimization couldn't converge with the specific multiplicity and I would appreciate any ideas on how to figure out this issue.

Many thanks,
Geng
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