[CP2K-user] [CP2K:16121] How to optimized dimer or higher cluster in cp2k

sumit agrawal sumitagrawal145 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 26 03:50:08 UTC 2021


Dear Prof. Hutter,

Thank you for all the suggestions. Very helpful!!!



On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 2:58 PM <hutter at chem.uzh.ch> wrote:

> Hi
>
> 1. Why OT  section require here ? Is it related to more better
> convergence?
> - It's not required, it just performs better.
>
> 2. If I go for higher cluster of water like trimer, tetramer etc. There
> will be more than one local minima (like cyclic structures, linear ones
> etc.). Is there any method in cp2k to calculate all possible local minima
> for given cluster size?
> - This is a hard problem and there is special programs that try to assess
> this. No easy way within CP2K.
>
> 3. For how many number of water molecules we can do geometry
> optimization?  Is there any limitation in the number ?
> - No limit.
>
> regards
>
> Juerg Hutter
>
>
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> Juerg Hutter                         Phone : ++41 44 635 4491
> Institut für Chemie                E-mail: hutter at chem.uzh.ch
> Universität Zürich
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> CH-8057 Zürich, Switzerland
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> From: "sumit agrawal"
> Sent by: cp2k at googlegroups.com
> Date: 10/23/2021 08:02AM
> Subject: Re: [CP2K:16116] How to optimized dimer or higher cluster in cp2k
>
> Dear Prof. Hutter,
>
> Now it working. Thanks!!!
>
> I have some more query regarding optimization.
>
> 1. Why OT  section require here ? Is it related to more better
> convergence?
>
> 2. If I go for higher cluster of water like trimer, tetramer etc. There
> will be more than one local minima (like cyclic structures, linear ones
> etc.). Is there any method in cp2k to calculate all possible local minima
> for given cluster size?
>
> 3. For how many number of water molecules we can do geometry
> optimization?  Is there any limitation in the number ?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Sumit
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:39 PM <hutter at chem.uzh.ch> wrote:
> Hi
>
>  I run the dimer with your setup, and the following changes:
>
>      &QS
>        METHOD GAPW
>        EPS_DEFAULT 1.0E-14
>      &END QS
>      &SCF
>        MAX_SCF    20
>        EPS_SCF    1.0E-07
>        SCF_GUESS  RESTART
>        &OT
>           MINIMIZER DIIS
>           PRECONDITIONER FULL_ALL
>        &END
>        &OUTER_SCF
>           MAX_SCF    20
>           EPS_SCF    1.0E-07
>        &END
>      &END SCF
>
>  Here are the results (your results). Rather close to the Gaussian values.
>
>  H2o-dimer(cp2k)             H2O-dimer(gaussian)
>   Energy = -152.89664364      Energy = -152.8967947
>  (Energy = -152.89098920)
>   Frequencies                 Frequencies
>     114( -44)                        128
>     145(  15)                        156
>     158(  95)                        157
>     198(  98)                        184
>     383( 136)                        360
>     638( 224)                        634
>    1618(1619)                       1617
>    1630(1622)                       1637
>    3673(3787)                       3672
>    3786(3792)                       3789
>    3874(3898)                       3874
>    3892(3900)                       3895
>
>  regards
>
>  Juerg Hutter
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>  Juerg Hutter                         Phone : ++41 44 635 4491
>  Institut für Chemie                E-mail: hutter at chem.uzh.ch
>  Universität Zürich
>  Winterthurerstrasse 190
>  CH-8057 Zürich, Switzerland
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>  From: "sumit agrawal"
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>  Date: 10/21/2021 07:34PM
>  Subject: Re: [CP2K:16111] How to optimized dimer or higher cluster in cp2k
>
>  Dear Prof. Hutter,
>
>  Thanks for your response!!!
>
>  I tried the same but it did not work. Is there any section I have to add
> in my input for hydrogen bonding interaction? Or in GEO_OPT it will take
> automatically? Since in gaussian due to hydrogen bonding I got a red
> shifted frequency (3672) whereas corresponding frequency in cp2k is 3787.
> Monomer frequency is 3795 and 3796 in gaussian and cp2k respectively for
> this mode.
>
>
>  Thanks,
>  Sumit
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 5:25 PM <hutter at chem.uzh.ch> wrote:
>  Hi
>
>   Just a guess. You were using the default settings in Gaussian.
>   The convergence criteria are then:
>
>    Maximum Force                0.000450
>    RMS     Force                0.000300
>    Maximum Displacement         0.001800
>    RMS     Displacement         0.001200
>
>   It would be a good start to use the same criteria also in CP2K.
>   (Hint: you have a factor 10 larger values)
>
>   regards
>
>   Juerg Hutter
>
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>   Juerg Hutter                         Phone : ++41 44 635 4491
>   Institut für Chemie                E-mail: hutter at chem.uzh.ch
>   Universität Zürich
>   Winterthurerstrasse 190
>   CH-8057 Zürich, Switzerland
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>   From: "sumit agrawal"
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>   Date: 10/21/2021 01:07PM
>   Subject: [CP2K:16108] How to optimized dimer or higher cluster in cp2k
>
>   Hii,
>
>   I am trying to optimize the water dimer and higher cluster of water in
> cp2k and comparing the results with gaussian calculations. I already
> optimized the water monomer in cp2k and results are well matched with cp2k.
> But when I do the same for water dimer my results are completely different.
> In cp2k water ignoring the hydrogen bonding. Can anybody suggest to me what
> I am doing wrong in my input file. My input is below.
>
>   And here is the frequency analysis:
>
>    H2o-dimer(cp2k) H2O-dimer(gaussian) Energy = -152.89098920 Energy =
> -152.8967947 Frequencies Frequencies -44 128 15 156 95 157 98 184 136 360
> 224 634 1619 1617 1622 1637 3787 3672 3792 3789 3898 3874 3900 3895
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