[CP2K-user] [CP2K:13207] CELL Optimization - Energy not decreasing

Jan Elsner janel... at gmail.com
Thu Apr 30 18:06:06 UTC 2020


Dear Juerg, 

Ok, cheers for the advice. 

Best wishes, 

Jan

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 5:24:26 PM UTC+1, jgh wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> yes, I cam to the same conclusion. The problem seems to be 
> the value for rs where the different formulas have to be switched. 
> Changing at line 117 in xc_perdew_wang.fypp the value from 
> 1.0 to 0.5 seems to solve most problems. 
>
> In addition, you might also want to use a reference cell (see CELL_REF) 
> when optimizing cells. 
>
> I will update the Trunk version of CP2K soon. 
>
> regards 
>
> Juerg Hutter 
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> From: "Jan Elsner" 
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> Date: 04/30/2020 05:31PM 
> Subject: Re: [CP2K:13207] CELL Optimization - Energy not decreasing 
>
> Dear all, 
>
> I thought I should post an update on this. 
>
> It seems that there is a problem with using PW92 as the local correlation 
> part of XC functional. When I use VWN instead, the analytical and numerical 
> forces are equal. I attach input and output files for DEBUG runs on a 
> single H20 molecule using optPBE in combination with PW92 and VWN. In the 
> case of PW92, there is a mismatch between analytical and numerical forces. 
>
> I note that the same applies for the some of the other functionals listed 
> here: https://github.com/cp2k/cp2k/tree/master/data/xc_section (at least, 
> I can confirm that optB88 and C09 also give a mismatch between numerical 
> and analytical forces using the settings listed here). 
>
> Best wishes, 
>
> Jan 
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 10:43:00 AM UTC+1, Jan Elsner wrote: 
> Dear Juerg, 
>
> Many thanks for the quick response! Unfortunately, decreasing EPS_SCF (all 
> the way to 1.0E-10) does not solve the problem. 
>
> I have done a DEBUG run which results in the following error (see end of 
> attached file debug.out): 'Abort: A mismatch between the analytical and the 
> numerical stress tensor has been detected. Check the implementation of the 
> stress tensor'. I'm not entirely sure how I should proceed from here / what 
> the problem is exactly - any insight would be very much appreciated. 
>
> If it helps shed some light on the problem, I also attach a figure showing 
> Total Energy, RMS Gradient and Cell Volume as a function of optimization 
> step (plotted from the original cell.out file I sent). The optimiser seems 
> to overshoot the minimum energy configuration. 
>
> One other question which comes to mind is whether it's ok to use GTH-PBE 
> or GTH-PADE pseudopotentials with optPBE-vdW? 
>
> Best wishes, 
>
> Jan 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:20:34 AM UTC+1, jgh wrote:Hi 
>   
> I don't know how well a setup as this is tested. However, from 
> your output I would guess the problem could be related to your 
> SCF convergence. With the methods you are using you have to set 
> the convergence criteria much tighter in order to get converged 
> energy and forces. I would suggest to use at least 1.E-8. 
>   
> The ultimate test would be to do a DEBUG run in order to verify 
> forces and stress tensor for the setting of options. 
>   
> regards 
>   
> Juerg Hutter 
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> Juerg Hutter                         Phone : ++41 44 635 4491 
> Institut für Chemie C                FAX   : ++41 44 635 6838 
> Universität Zürich                   E-mail: h... at chem.uzh.ch 
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> CH-8057 Zürich, Switzerland 
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> From: "Jan Elsner"   
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> Date: 04/18/2020 08:33PM 
> Subject: [CP2K:13145] CELL Optimization - Energy not decreasing 
>   
> Dear all,   
>   
> I am trying to run a Cell Optimisation on a periodic molecular crystal 
> (beta-resorcinol: C6H6O2, 4 molecules in unit cell) using K-points and BFGS 
> as optimiser. I am using the vdW-DF-optPBE functional (
> https://github.com/cp2k/cp2k/commit/74ef05b96a46523a0daf7da04e75804420b5cd5e). 
> After 83 optimisation steps, my system does converge to the required MOTION 
> thresholds, however from step 7 onwards the total energy increases at every 
> step i.e.: 
>   
> --------  Informations at step =     7 ------------ 
>   Optimization Method        =                 BFGS 
>   Total Energy               =      -280.1489665596 
>   Internal Pressure [bar]    =     -2667.4573178334 
>   Real energy change         =         0.0001037473 
>   Predicted change in energy =        -0.0001063956 
>   Scaling factor             =         0.0000000000 
>   Step size                  =         0.0124910496 
>   Trust radius               =         0.4724315332 
>   Decrease in energy         =                   NO 
>   Used time                  =               60.978 
>   
>   Convergence check : 
>   Max. step size             =         0.0124910496 
>   Conv. limit for step size  =         0.0010000000 
>   Convergence in step size   =                   NO 
>   RMS step size              =         0.0029192108 
>   Conv. limit for RMS step   =         0.0010000000 
>   Convergence in RMS step    =                   NO 
>   Max. gradient              =         0.0034738629 
>   Conv. limit for gradients  =         0.0001000000 
>   Conv. for gradients        =                   NO 
>   RMS gradient               =         0.0006857738 
>   Conv. limit for RMS grad.  =         0.0001000000 
>   Conv. for gradients        =                   NO 
>   Pressure Deviation [bar]   =     -2668.4705678334 
>   Pressure Tolerance [bar]   =       200.0000000000 
>   Conv. for  PRESSURE        =                   NO 
>  --------------------------------------------------- 
>   
> The resulting cell-optimised structure is therefore not a minimum in 
> energy. I've attached the input and output files. Some points which may (or 
> may not) be relevant: 
> I did not encounter this problem when using a different functional (PBE + 
> D3 instead of optPBE-vdW as used here), but otherwise identical settings. 
> I encountered the same issue (energy increasing at every step) using 
> CUTOFF/REL_CUTOFF = 800/60 
> I initially tried to converge CUTOFF and REL_CUTOFF as in the tutorial ( 
> https://www.cp2k.org/howto:converging_cutoff), however my single point 
> calculations did not converge quite as nicely as in the tutorial - instead 
> oscillating with an amplitude of order ~ e-4 Ha (I've attached a figure 
> showing this). This is why I use such large CUTOFF/REL_CUTOFF values. I 
> note that this was also the case when I ran PBE + D3 calculations, however 
> in the latter case my cell optimisation did work.   
>   
> Any input would be greatly appreciated.   
>   
> Best wishes,   
>   
> Jan 
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