[CP2K:10640] electrostatic decoupling

Xiaoming Wang wxia... at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 16:53:56 CEST 2018


Hi,

Thanks again.

Best,
Xiaoming Wang

On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 3:34:52 AM UTC-4, jgh wrote:
>
> Hi 
>
> I am not sure, but think DDAPC suffers from the same problem. 
>
> regards 
>
> Juerg 
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> Date: 08/16/2018 04:48PM 
> Subject: Re: [CP2K:10640] electrostatic decoupling 
>
> Dear Prof. Hutter, 
>
> Thanks for your explanations and suggestion. I will read the 
> corresponding papers. Btw, does the ddapc method solve 
> this problem? There is a 'e_decpl' decoupling energy in the 
> cp_ddapc_apply_CD. Or it still suffers the same 
> problem? 
>
> Best, 
> Xiaoming 
>
>
> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 8:12:32 AM UTC-4, jgh wrote:Hi 
>   
> your problem is related to the ill-defined energy of a charge 
> in a periodic system. 
> Your energy 1 is calculated with a background charge to nuetralize 
> the charge of your orbital. In energy 2, the isolated system, 
> no such background charge is needed. 
>   
> If you want to get some idea how to attack this problem, I would 
> suggest to read the vast literature on the calculation of 
> charged defects in solids. Start with the recent work of Pasquarello. 
>   
> regards 
>   
> Juerg 
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> From: "Xiaoming Wang"   
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> Date: 08/15/2018 10:05PM 
> Subject: [CP2K:10631] electrostatic decoupling 
>   
> Hello, 
>   
> I'd like to decouple the the Coulomb interaction between the electron of 
> one specific state, say HOMO,   
> and its periodic images, for a fully periodic DFT calculation. The 
> interested charge density is localized. 
> I have tried to use different poisson solvers, say MT or WAVELET, to 
> achieve my goal. So first I extracted   
> the the charge density from mo_coeff. Then called the poisson solver. 
>   
> pw_poisson_solve(poisson_env, orb_rho_g%pw, ener1, v_gspace1%pw)   
>   
> with poisson environment PERIODIC3D. Next I changed the poisson_env to 
> MT0D, then called  poisson 
> solver once more. 
>   
> pw_poisson_solve(poisson_env, orb_rho_g%pw, ener2, v_gspace2%pw) 
>   
> Finally, the decoupling energy is deltaE = ener1 - ener2. I thought deltaE 
> should be a very small 
> number, because the charge density of that state is quite localized and my 
> unit cell is big enough for 
> the MT solver. However, I got a very large deltaE 0.05 Ha. Also the value 
> is negative, which means the   
> Hartree energy is higher for the decoupled case. I cannot understand this, 
> because I think the image   
> interaction would increase the energy. So can anyone give some advice? 
>   
> Best, 
> Xiaoming Wang   
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