[CP2K:7579] terrible performance across infiniband

Glen MacLachlan mac... at gwu.edu
Tue Mar 22 16:12:12 UTC 2016


Yeah, the ^ is a regular expression character that means ignore what comes
after -- think of it as a negation.

Best,
Glen

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On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Cohen, Ronald <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
wrote:

> Thank you so much. It is a bit difficult because I did not set up this
> machine and do not have root access, but I know it is a mess. I backed up
> to just try the HPL benchmark.
> I am finding 100 GFLOPS one node performance on N=2000 and 16 cores, and
> 1.5 GFLOPS using two nodes, 8 cores per node. So there is definately
> something really wrong. I need to getthis working before I can worry about
> threads or cp2k.
> Was that a caret in your command above:
>
> mpirun --mca btl ^tcp
>
> ?
>
> I looked through my openmpi build and it seems to have found the
> infiniband includes such as they exist on the machine, but I could not the
> expected mxm or Mellanox drivers anywhere on the machine.
>
> I am CCing Peter Fox, the person who volunteers his time for this machine,
> and who has root access!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Ron
>
>
> ---
> Ronald Cohen
> Geophysical Laboratory
> Carnegie Institution
> 5251 Broad Branch Rd., N.W.
> Washington, D.C. 20015
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>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Glen MacLachlan <mac... at gwu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> There's a chance that OpenMPI wasn't configured to use IB properly. Why
>> don't you disable tcp and see if you are using IB?  It's easy
>>
>> mpirun --mca btl ^tcp ...
>>
>>
>> Regarding OpenMP:
>> I'm not sure we're converging on the same discussion anymore but setting
>> OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 does *not* disable multithreading overhead -- you need
>> to compile without the fopenmp to get a measure of true single thread
>> performance.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Glen
>>
>> ==========================================
>> Glen MacLachlan, PhD
>> *HPC Specialist  *
>> *for Physical Sciences &*
>>
>> *Professorial Lecturer, Data Sciences*
>>
>> Office of Technology Services
>> The George Washington University
>> 725 21st Street
>> Washington, DC 20052
>> Suite 211, Corcoran Hall
>>
>> ==========================================
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ronald Cohen <rco... at carnegiescience.edu
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> According to my experience in general, or the cp2k web pages in
>>> particular that is not the case.  Please see the performance page for
>>> cp2k.  The problem I am sure now is with the openmpi build not using the
>>> proper infiniband libraries or drivers.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Glen MacLachlan <mac... at gwu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's hard to talk about the performance when you set OMP_NUM_THREADS = 1
>>> because there is so much overhead associated with OpenMP that launching 1
>>> thread almost always is a performance killer. In fact, OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
>>> never rivals single-threaded performance-wise because of that overhead. No
>>> one ever sets  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 unless they are playing around...We never
>>> do that in production jobs. How about when you scale up to 4 or 8 threads?
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>> P.S. I see you're in DC...so am I. I support CP2K for the chemists at
>>> GWU. Hope you aren't using Metro to get around the DMV :p
>>> On Mar 21, 2016 5:11 PM, "Cohen, Ronald" <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes I am using hybrid mode. But even if I set OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
>>>> performance is terrible.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Ronald Cohen
>>>> Geophysical Laboratory
>>>> Carnegie Institution
>>>> 5251 Broad Branch Rd., N.W.
>>>> Washington, D.C. 20015
>>>> rco... at carnegiescience.edu
>>>> office: 202-478-8937
>>>> skype: ronaldcohen
>>>> https://twitter.com/recohen3
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>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Glen MacLachlan <mac... at gwu.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are you conflating MPI with OpenMP? OMP_NUM_THREADS sets the number of
>>>>> threads used by OpenMP and OpenMP doesn't work on a distributed memory
>>>>> environment unless you piggyback on MPI which would be a hybrid use and I'm
>>>>> not sure CP2K ever worked optimally in hybrid mode or at least that's what
>>>>> I've gotten from reading the comments on the source code.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for MPI, are you sure your MPI stack was compiled with IB bindings?
>>>>> I had similar issues and the problem was that I wasn't actually using IB.
>>>>> If you can, disable eth and leave only IB and see what happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2016 4:48 PM, "Ronald Cohen" <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On the dco machine deepcarbon I find decent single node mpi
>>>>>> performnace, but running on the same number of processors across two nodes
>>>>>> is terrible, even with the infiniband interconect. This is the cp2k  H2O-64
>>>>>> benchmark:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 cores on 1 node: total time 530 seconds
>>>>>>  SUBROUTINE                       CALLS  ASD         SELF TIME
>>>>>>  TOTAL TIME
>>>>>>                                 MAXIMUM       AVERAGE  MAXIMUM
>>>>>>  AVERAGE  MAXIMUM
>>>>>>  CP2K                                 1  1.0    0.015    0.019
>>>>>>  530.306  530.306
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>  -                         MESSAGE PASSING PERFORMANCE
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ROUTINE             CALLS  TOT TIME [s]  AVE VOLUME [Bytes]
>>>>>>  PERFORMANCE [MB/s]
>>>>>>  MP_Group                5         0.000
>>>>>>  MP_Bcast             4103         0.029              44140.
>>>>>>     6191.05
>>>>>>  MP_Allreduce        21860         7.077                263.
>>>>>>        0.81
>>>>>>  MP_Gather              62         0.008                320.
>>>>>>        2.53
>>>>>>  MP_Sync                54         0.001
>>>>>>  MP_Alltoall         19407        26.839             648289.
>>>>>>      468.77
>>>>>>  MP_ISendRecv        21600         0.091              94533.
>>>>>>    22371.25
>>>>>>  MP_Wait            238786        50.545
>>>>>>  MP_comm_split          50         0.004
>>>>>>  MP_ISend            97572         0.741             239205.
>>>>>>    31518.68
>>>>>>  MP_IRecv            97572         8.605             239170.
>>>>>>     2711.98
>>>>>>  MP_Memory          167778        45.018
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on 16 cores on 2 nodes: total time 5053 seconds !!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SUBROUTINE                       CALLS  ASD         SELF TIME
>>>>>>  TOTAL TIME
>>>>>>                                 MAXIMUM       AVERAGE  MAXIMUM
>>>>>>  AVERAGE  MAXIMUM
>>>>>>  CP2K                                 1  1.0    0.311    0.363
>>>>>> 5052.904 5052.909
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>  -                         MESSAGE PASSING PERFORMANCE
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>  -
>>>>>>           -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ROUTINE             CALLS  TOT TIME [s]  AVE VOLUME [Bytes]
>>>>>>  PERFORMANCE [MB/s]
>>>>>>  MP_Group                5         0.000
>>>>>>  MP_Bcast             4119         0.258              43968.
>>>>>>      700.70
>>>>>>  MP_Allreduce        21892      1546.186                263.
>>>>>>        0.00
>>>>>>  MP_Gather              62         0.049                320.
>>>>>>        0.40
>>>>>>  MP_Sync                54         0.071
>>>>>>  MP_Alltoall         19407      1507.024             648289.
>>>>>>        8.35
>>>>>>  MP_ISendRecv        21600         0.104              94533.
>>>>>>    19656.44
>>>>>>  MP_Wait            238786       513.507
>>>>>>  MP_comm_split          50         4.096
>>>>>>  MP_ISend            97572         1.102             239206.
>>>>>>    21176.09
>>>>>>  MP_IRecv            97572         2.739             239171.
>>>>>>     8520.75
>>>>>>  MP_Memory          167778        18.845
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas? The code was built with the latest gfortran and I built
>>>>>> all of the dependencies, using this arch file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CC   = gcc
>>>>>> CPP  =
>>>>>> FC   = mpif90
>>>>>> LD   = mpif90
>>>>>> AR   = ar -r
>>>>>> PREFIX   = /home/rcohen
>>>>>> FFTW_INC   = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>>>> FFTW_LIB   = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>>>> LIBINT_INC = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>>>> LIBINT_LIB = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>>>> LIBXC_INC  = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>>>> LIBXC_LIB  = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>>>> GCC_LIB = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/lib
>>>>>> GCC_LIB64  = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/lib64
>>>>>> GCC_INC = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/include
>>>>>> DFLAGS  = -D__FFTW3 -D__LIBINT -D__LIBXC2\
>>>>>>     -D__LIBINT_MAX_AM=7 -D__LIBDERIV_MAX_AM1=6 -D__MAX_CONTR=4\
>>>>>>     -D__parallel -D__SCALAPACK -D__HAS_smm_dnn -D__ELPA3
>>>>>> CPPFLAGS   =
>>>>>> FCFLAGS = $(DFLAGS) -O2 -ffast-math -ffree-form
>>>>>> -ffree-line-length-none\
>>>>>>     -fopenmp -ftree-vectorize -funroll-loops\
>>>>>>     -mtune=native  \
>>>>>>      -I$(FFTW_INC) -I$(LIBINT_INC) -I$(LIBXC_INC)
>>>>>> -I$(MKLROOT)/include \
>>>>>>      -I$(GCC_INC) -I$(PREFIX)/include/elpa_openmp-2015.11.001/modules
>>>>>> LIBS    =  \
>>>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/libscalapack.a
>>>>>> $(PREFIX)/lib/libsmm_dnn_sandybridge-2015-11-10.a \
>>>>>>     $(FFTW_LIB)/libfftw3.a\
>>>>>>     $(FFTW_LIB)/libfftw3_threads.a\
>>>>>>     $(LIBXC_LIB)/libxcf90.a\
>>>>>>     $(LIBXC_LIB)/libxc.a\
>>>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/liblapack.a  $(PREFIX)/lib/libtmglib.a
>>>>>> $(PREFIX)/lib/libgomp.a  \
>>>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/libderiv.a $(PREFIX)/lib/libint.a  -lelpa_openmp
>>>>>> -lgomp -lopenblas
>>>>>> LDFLAGS = $(FCFLAGS)  -L$(GCC_LIB64) -L$(GCC_LIB) -static-libgfortran
>>>>>> -L$(PREFIX)/lib
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was run with  OMP_NUM_THREADS=2 on the two nodes and  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
>>>>>> on the one node.
>>>>>> Running with  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 on two nodes .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am now checking whether OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 on two nodes is faster
>>>>>> than OMP_NUM_THREADS=2 , but I do not think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Cohen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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