[CP2K:7571] terrible performance across infiniband

Glen MacLachlan mac... at gwu.edu
Tue Mar 22 14:32:46 UTC 2016


Hi Ron,

There's a chance that OpenMPI wasn't configured to use IB properly. Why
don't you disable tcp and see if you are using IB?  It's easy

mpirun --mca btl ^tcp ...


Regarding OpenMP:
I'm not sure we're converging on the same discussion anymore but setting
OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 does *not* disable multithreading overhead -- you need to
compile without the fopenmp to get a measure of true single thread
performance.


Best,
Glen

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Ronald Cohen <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
wrote:

> According to my experience in general, or the cp2k web pages in particular
> that is not the case.  Please see the performance page for cp2k.  The
> problem I am sure now is with the openmpi build not using the proper
> infiniband libraries or drivers.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Ron
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 5:36 PM, Glen MacLachlan <mac... at gwu.edu> wrote:
>
> It's hard to talk about the performance when you set OMP_NUM_THREADS = 1
> because there is so much overhead associated with OpenMP that launching 1
> thread almost always is a performance killer. In fact, OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
> never rivals single-threaded performance-wise because of that overhead. No
> one ever sets  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 unless they are playing around...We never
> do that in production jobs. How about when you scale up to 4 or 8 threads?
>
> Glen
>
> P.S. I see you're in DC...so am I. I support CP2K for the chemists at GWU.
> Hope you aren't using Metro to get around the DMV :p
> On Mar 21, 2016 5:11 PM, "Cohen, Ronald" <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes I am using hybrid mode. But even if I set OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
>> performance is terrible.
>>
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>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Glen MacLachlan <mac... at gwu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you conflating MPI with OpenMP? OMP_NUM_THREADS sets the number of
>>> threads used by OpenMP and OpenMP doesn't work on a distributed memory
>>> environment unless you piggyback on MPI which would be a hybrid use and I'm
>>> not sure CP2K ever worked optimally in hybrid mode or at least that's what
>>> I've gotten from reading the comments on the source code.
>>>
>>> As for MPI, are you sure your MPI stack was compiled with IB bindings? I
>>> had similar issues and the problem was that I wasn't actually using IB. If
>>> you can, disable eth and leave only IB and see what happens.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>> On Mar 21, 2016 4:48 PM, "Ronald Cohen" <rco... at carnegiescience.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the dco machine deepcarbon I find decent single node mpi
>>>> performnace, but running on the same number of processors across two nodes
>>>> is terrible, even with the infiniband interconect. This is the cp2k  H2O-64
>>>> benchmark:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16 cores on 1 node: total time 530 seconds
>>>>  SUBROUTINE                       CALLS  ASD         SELF TIME
>>>>  TOTAL TIME
>>>>                                 MAXIMUM       AVERAGE  MAXIMUM  AVERAGE
>>>>  MAXIMUM
>>>>  CP2K                                 1  1.0    0.015    0.019  530.306
>>>>  530.306
>>>>  -
>>>>         -
>>>>  -                         MESSAGE PASSING PERFORMANCE
>>>>         -
>>>>  -
>>>>         -
>>>>
>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>  ROUTINE             CALLS  TOT TIME [s]  AVE VOLUME [Bytes]
>>>>  PERFORMANCE [MB/s]
>>>>  MP_Group                5         0.000
>>>>  MP_Bcast             4103         0.029              44140.
>>>>   6191.05
>>>>  MP_Allreduce        21860         7.077                263.
>>>>      0.81
>>>>  MP_Gather              62         0.008                320.
>>>>      2.53
>>>>  MP_Sync                54         0.001
>>>>  MP_Alltoall         19407        26.839             648289.
>>>>    468.77
>>>>  MP_ISendRecv        21600         0.091              94533.
>>>>  22371.25
>>>>  MP_Wait            238786        50.545
>>>>  MP_comm_split          50         0.004
>>>>  MP_ISend            97572         0.741             239205.
>>>>  31518.68
>>>>  MP_IRecv            97572         8.605             239170.
>>>>   2711.98
>>>>  MP_Memory          167778        45.018
>>>>
>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> on 16 cores on 2 nodes: total time 5053 seconds !!
>>>>
>>>> SUBROUTINE                       CALLS  ASD         SELF TIME
>>>>  TOTAL TIME
>>>>                                 MAXIMUM       AVERAGE  MAXIMUM  AVERAGE
>>>>  MAXIMUM
>>>>  CP2K                                 1  1.0    0.311    0.363 5052.904
>>>> 5052.909
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>  -
>>>>         -
>>>>  -                         MESSAGE PASSING PERFORMANCE
>>>>         -
>>>>  -
>>>>         -
>>>>
>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>  ROUTINE             CALLS  TOT TIME [s]  AVE VOLUME [Bytes]
>>>>  PERFORMANCE [MB/s]
>>>>  MP_Group                5         0.000
>>>>  MP_Bcast             4119         0.258              43968.
>>>>    700.70
>>>>  MP_Allreduce        21892      1546.186                263.
>>>>      0.00
>>>>  MP_Gather              62         0.049                320.
>>>>      0.40
>>>>  MP_Sync                54         0.071
>>>>  MP_Alltoall         19407      1507.024             648289.
>>>>      8.35
>>>>  MP_ISendRecv        21600         0.104              94533.
>>>>  19656.44
>>>>  MP_Wait            238786       513.507
>>>>  MP_comm_split          50         4.096
>>>>  MP_ISend            97572         1.102             239206.
>>>>  21176.09
>>>>  MP_IRecv            97572         2.739             239171.
>>>>   8520.75
>>>>  MP_Memory          167778        18.845
>>>>
>>>>  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? The code was built with the latest gfortran and I built all
>>>> of the dependencies, using this arch file.
>>>>
>>>> CC   = gcc
>>>> CPP  =
>>>> FC   = mpif90
>>>> LD   = mpif90
>>>> AR   = ar -r
>>>> PREFIX   = /home/rcohen
>>>> FFTW_INC   = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>> FFTW_LIB   = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>> LIBINT_INC = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>> LIBINT_LIB = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>> LIBXC_INC  = $(PREFIX)/include
>>>> LIBXC_LIB  = $(PREFIX)/lib
>>>> GCC_LIB = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/lib
>>>> GCC_LIB64  = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/lib64
>>>> GCC_INC = $(PREFIX)/gcc-trunk/include
>>>> DFLAGS  = -D__FFTW3 -D__LIBINT -D__LIBXC2\
>>>>     -D__LIBINT_MAX_AM=7 -D__LIBDERIV_MAX_AM1=6 -D__MAX_CONTR=4\
>>>>     -D__parallel -D__SCALAPACK -D__HAS_smm_dnn -D__ELPA3
>>>> CPPFLAGS   =
>>>> FCFLAGS = $(DFLAGS) -O2 -ffast-math -ffree-form -ffree-line-length-none\
>>>>     -fopenmp -ftree-vectorize -funroll-loops\
>>>>     -mtune=native  \
>>>>      -I$(FFTW_INC) -I$(LIBINT_INC) -I$(LIBXC_INC) -I$(MKLROOT)/include \
>>>>      -I$(GCC_INC) -I$(PREFIX)/include/elpa_openmp-2015.11.001/modules
>>>> LIBS    =  \
>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/libscalapack.a
>>>> $(PREFIX)/lib/libsmm_dnn_sandybridge-2015-11-10.a \
>>>>     $(FFTW_LIB)/libfftw3.a\
>>>>     $(FFTW_LIB)/libfftw3_threads.a\
>>>>     $(LIBXC_LIB)/libxcf90.a\
>>>>     $(LIBXC_LIB)/libxc.a\
>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/liblapack.a  $(PREFIX)/lib/libtmglib.a
>>>> $(PREFIX)/lib/libgomp.a  \
>>>>     $(PREFIX)/lib/libderiv.a $(PREFIX)/lib/libint.a  -lelpa_openmp
>>>> -lgomp -lopenblas
>>>> LDFLAGS = $(FCFLAGS)  -L$(GCC_LIB64) -L$(GCC_LIB) -static-libgfortran
>>>> -L$(PREFIX)/lib
>>>>
>>>> It was run with  OMP_NUM_THREADS=2 on the two nodes and  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1
>>>> on the one node.
>>>> Running with  OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 on two nodes .
>>>>
>>>> I am now checking whether OMP_NUM_THREADS=1 on two nodes is faster
>>>> than OMP_NUM_THREADS=2 , but I do not think so.
>>>>
>>>> Ron Cohen
>>>>
>>>>
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